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    Posted: 26 Sep 06 at 7:53pm
yeah that's what i was thinking, where does it fit into the existing market?
It seems to me that it's probably slower than a 49er, less versitile than a cherub/12ft skiff  
BUT it does look sexy!
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Umm... its not going to be slower than a 49er. 

Trust me, when it comes to skiffs the 49er isn't that extreme, especially when you see the beam of this one (its roughly the same as an 18 footer). 
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Originally posted by Paramedic

At £9k it's hardly going to trouble the Cherubs, in
fact it might be a good for the class in the long term.


Hard to see what the point of the boat is though when you have the
Cherub, 29er(xx) and 12" skiff all competing for a limited number of
people.



Humm... Cherub 'v' 29erXX - both aimed at very different people. Cherub
is a development class with the focus on your own ideas within a frame
work of rules to allow creativity at low cost.

29erXX - is a SMOD aimed at the Women Olympic slot and one design
racing. And actually these days probably a slightly lighter crew weight.

12 ft Skiff is a almost no holds barred development class with a strong
aspect on sponsorship / entertainment written into the rules, and is
massively expensive and is best suited to big macho muscle men.

The SK4 is taking the lightweight skiff ethic to the next logical stage.
Pushing the boundaries of this idea for light to mid weight mixed crews
(Kevin sales with his girlfriend) with in a one design concept?

So the first 3 classes don't compete for the same market.

But the SK4 covers all 3 in one swoop. In an exciting new, ultra fast,
maybe even average strength mid market package.

To me this SK4 isn't pointless, and knowing Kevin as a successful
business man that he is I'm sure it isn't.

( I just read that back and it sounded like a rant - but is isn't honest - it's
just what I think )

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Originally posted by combat wombat

Umm... its not going to be slower than a 49er. 

Trust me, when it comes to skiffs the 49er isn't that extreme, especially when you see the beam of this one (its roughly the same as an 18 footer). 


PROVE IT!!

Bet you it will be slower round a course than a 49er!!
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what kind of weight range is it aimed at??
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Originally posted by Prince Buster

yeah that's what i was thinking, where does it fit into the existing market?



If you imagine your ultimate boat, then look around and see what fits, thats when you realise there is a gap in the market...

Tim, the rig was ordered at the same time as Will and Lucy's boat from the same makers, hence the similarity. The areas are not the same.

12 footers are big peoples boats at the end of it, you need the pies to hold the rag down. This was intended to be a lightweights boat hence the large righting moment.
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Originally posted by aardvark_issues




If you imagine your ultimate boat, then look around and see what fits,
thats when you realise there is a gap in the market...



Yeah... here's hoping my adjustable rack Cherub will be just that.


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princebuster - we sailed against it in a 49er on sunday in 12-14knots and it was going as quick upwind maybe slightly higher and the same speed downwind again sometimes a bit deeper. The only disadvantage is that it is not as quick tacking or gybing as a 49er but then its early days yet.

I think there is a gap in the market, there are not many boats if any (other than cats) that can go as quick as a 49er with a crew weight of 135kg that is easier to sail and can be sailed fast by the older generation (older than alot of 49er sailors)



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Oh no another gap in the market ...
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Tim, the rig was ordered at the same time as Will and Lucy's boat from the same makers, hence the similarity. The areas are not the same.



Ah don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to make any digs at it or say that the cherub is better in any way at all. Was merely an observation that maybe Will and Kevin sometimes chat on the phone about boat related things
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