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29er397
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Topic: Getting begginers into club racing Posted: 02 May 06 at 10:28pm |
Hi
does anyone have any particular pearls of wisdom, perhaps a stratagy that your club used or just a suggestion you may have. http://pub27.bravenet.com/forum/2288404568/show/612376 |
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m_liddell
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 May 06 at 11:22pm |
A club I know considered some way of identifying the boat as a racing newbie (red ribbons on shrouds or something) so the rest of the fleet would take it easy if they screwed up. The biggest thing if for oether people racing to not take it too seriously! It’s a club race on a Sunday morning, not the Olympics it should be a bit of fun. Another idea if to get new people into it by crewing a few times with experianced guys in the fleet, it's less scary this way. I don’t really understand the need to push people into racing. Yes, you may want a bigger fleet to sail in - but the priority should be getting just getting people out sailing at all and then the racing may well take care of itself. A much bigger problem is retaining people after courses. How many sailing clubs offer rescue cover when there isn’t racing/a course going on? None that I have ever been a member of. I don’t like racing, and I don’t think I ever will. I’ve done some open meetings and a season of club racing and I just got fed up with all the bickering, arguments and people taking it way to seriously even at club level. I sial to have fun! In kitesurfing and windsurfing most people do not race, it is not necessary for enjoyment of the sport and sailing should be the same. Edited by m_liddell |
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Olly4088
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 May 06 at 8:12am |
We are currently putting into place some kind of buddy system for the less experienced sailors. You just give them a buddy of someone who sails regularly who then gives them tips on how to rig the boat and also tips on the water whilst out racing.
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getafix
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 May 06 at 9:18am |
Some things that might help
1. Encourage newcomers to sail one of your clubs "supported classes" - it means there's usually going to be other people out sailing the same boat and inevitably they can swap thoughts/tips after racing or just give your newbies someone to follow and observe for a while 2. Make sure newbies to racing do at least one stint a year in the assistant OOD chair - helps understand the mechanics of racing and how the flags, course setting and times work as well 3. Encourage the sort of environment the RYA Racing Charter is promoting - a hoard of shouting, barging and rule-bashing sailors isn't a welcoming pool to go swim in for the first time 4. Make sure your onshore facilities encourage everyone to stay behind after racing for a cup of tea or a pint, likewise if there's breaks in the racing on a given day - nothing like swinging the lead to encourage the free flow of ideas 5. If all else fails, issue magic potion to all newbies then laugh when "uptight boy" in his laser and "shouting couple" in their Fireball are passed by newbies in Topaz Uno's |
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MRJP BUZZ 585
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 May 06 at 10:08am |
i like the last idea
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Olly4088
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 May 06 at 10:15am |
I think the buddy system works quite well. It was used at a nationals that I went to a few years ago and it worked well cause all of the top boys/girls were very helpful and helped some of the lesser crews move up the fleet. You then sometimes get the problem that happened at the fireball nationals a few years back where the buddies were getting beaten by the people that they are trying to help. |
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MRJP BUZZ 585
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Matt Jackson
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 May 06 at 12:54pm |
At Scaling we have a very active Junior and newbie scene and having read this thread and had a think I believe it's to do with the racing program. We have casual racing on Saturday and Sunday morning and 3 races on Sunday afternoon which get progressively more intense. 1200 Novice race race - anyone can enter but realistically it's a fun race, 1400 Class race - 4 classes generally with less than 10-15 in each and 1600 ACH - all boats off one start. Like heavy wind sailing it's easier to get the hang of it if it get steadily tougher rather than going straight out in a F6. I guess we have a large turnout already (a critical mass if you like) but it works well if you can get to that point. Edited by Matt Jackson |
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laser47
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 May 06 at 4:04pm |
at Hawley we allow beginers to do one lap and average it out this makes it less intimidating as being lapped several times is a horrible prospect also we've just introduced a start club racing thing (similar to the RYA start racing program) for the junior sailors who have completed at least a stage 1 course where they have to be sufficently good at a skill to get it ticked off on their certificate but it's all done in a fun way with games and prizes so they hardly even notice they're racing. i think the eventual aim is to have a hawley junior topper squad
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getafix
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 May 06 at 4:42pm |
average lap is a good thing for newbies - nothing worse than
sailing round dead last while everyone sits there looking at your in
resentment, or worse shouting "retire" as you pass - I actually
witnessed this once
... only prob for those of us with tidal waters to deal with is that you have to start and finish from the same spot! |
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