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Doublehander for 2 lightweights |
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CurlyBen
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Topic: Doublehander for 2 lightweights Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 10:48am |
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There's one on the class website for £1400 but you do need a fair bit of room to sail it
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 11:38am | |
If you want a single wire lightweights boat with a bit of performance save up and get a 29er. No other one design is in the same league.
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Strawberry
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 11:56am | |
Sorry, but you have actually just described a '97 rules Cherub. Single wire, assymetric kite, centre main, etc. 120kg so about 18-19stone. That is spot on for a Cherub. you will fly! £1500 would get you a very nice and well sorted boat, if you can find one. Boats in this price range are under huge demand ATM. Sailing a '97 rules boat isn't going to leave you behind the rest of the fleet. The majority of the boats still race under '97 rules, so there will be loads of competition for you. As you become more confident you may want to upgrade to twin-trapeze. This is simply a case of attaching another trapeze line to the mast. Or even eventually upgrading to bigger sails. But that's completely up to you. How old are you? If your older than about 12 you will feel very left out in the 29er fleet! |
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Cherub 2649 "Dangerous Strawberry
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Garry
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 12:45pm | |
This is not a bad list for your weight range (not sure you could get a Buzz within budget?), although I'd suggest you look at a cherub as well. Worth trying all of these to see what suits you. if you post your general location I'm sure you could arrange some trial sails locally via this forum. Edited by Garry |
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Garry
Lark 2252, Contender 298 www.cuckoos.eclipse.co.uk |
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NickA
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 1:22pm | |
The 405's a bit of a kid's boat really - not much power and surprisingly expensive. As for the old Buzz, 29er, laser 3k etc debate... 29er - best boat by a margin but most expensive, wobbly and most of the competition is against well funded, super fit teenagers and they're usually around £4k. Buzz - bit big but stable; not seen one for < £2k. 3k - bit small and maybe under powered, but the only one that's truly singlehandable. But still £2k - £5k. or ... if you're skint.... Laser 2 - cheap as chips, maintenance free, lasts forever, a blast on a beam reach in a blow and if you can handle a spinny with a pole, the "regatta" model feels remarkably quick downwind too (partly due to the bow spray!). Fireball - indeed. Been here forever, never seems to die. But nice new ones are pricey and old wooden ones need lots of TLC. Old cherub - if you want to spend more time in the garage and boat park than on the water, but look really, really cool doing it ..... Edited by NickA |
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Strawberry
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 2:17pm | |
If you don't know what your talking about then it's probably best to keep it shut, because that's rubbish! Admittidley we do spend alot of time working on our boats in the garage, but thats through choice, not neccesity. |
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Cherub 2649 "Dangerous Strawberry
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damp_freddie
Far too distracted from work Joined: 20 Oct 05 Location: Aruba Online Status: Offline Posts: 339 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 2:49pm | |
Yeah stay clear of development classes and stick in a good one design
like the 420 or 29er. The buzz is fun but actually a heavy boat to lug
around and not many about.
'teenager single trap ODs are way fun to sail and at least you know at club level it isn't your funding or latest 'go faster' bits you didn't buy which stand in the way of the learning curve and those wins ahead of you! Having seen many cherubs the 29er is faster, less tippy and easier to rig and sail out the box and will keep it's resale value unlike any development class boat -once new changes come in--the sea bed is the limit. Most of all Spend your time on the water having fun with a parts bin and sails which are affordable and up to date! Edited by damp_freddie |
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tgruitt
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 2:50pm | |
okok back to topic! laser II's are cheap. Fireballs are gorgeous, I like them a lot, great fleet racing.
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Strawberry
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 3:34pm | |
A crap excuse used by crap sailors! Calculations have shown it costs me alot less to sail a Cherub than a one design.
Rubbish! Cherub's will easily pace a 29er. And will also loose alot less value, as a 10yr old Cherub will have lost all the value it's ever going to already. |
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Cherub 2649 "Dangerous Strawberry
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carshalton fc
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 5:37pm | |
alright strawberry ur starting to act like a 5 year old that has lost his dummy. to be honist there is no point in villen getting a cherub cos on his £1500 budget he will have to get an old one that wont keep up with the 05rules ones but if he bought a 29er,3k etc(one design) he could be comptative for very little money.
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