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Have to agree, the wayfarer would fit the bill if you are looking for a nice cruising boat and can be suprisingly fun with the kite up. Given the choice of using a boat for instructing, I'd always choose the Wayfarer over the newer boats bar the Laser 2000 but the 2000 is a more raceir boat and not particularly ideal for being primarily used as a cruising boat. 

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I'm not so sure. I grew up with a Wayfarer and, granted, it was a great boat.
However, things must surely move on. I've sailed more modern boats such
as the Laser 2000 and RS Vision and was impressed at how much more user
friendly and, well, better they were.

You wouldn't choose to drive a 40 year old car regularly, would you?

Also, the Wayfarer is bigger and heavier than I'd want.
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29er!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe not... crikey.
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The 2000 is a much more tippier boat, we've advanced complete beginners from sailing wayfarers to 2000s and quite a few of them have had swimming lessons when such a problem would not have occured if they were still sailing wayfarers. The general impresion we gained from most of our adult pupils at a comercial establshment was that the wayfarer was a good grounding for cruising and racing and the 2000 was the next step up. When teaching basic skills and seamanship skills we'd choose to use the Wayfarer, we generally tended to use the 2000 for more advanced and racing courses. Most of the adults we taught in the 2000s loved it but some prefered the wayfarer because it was less of a racing boat. The Wayfarer is a brilliant boat and can have a racing pedigree about it if you choose to go that direction but I'd say just now is still the ideal family boat.
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Originally posted by 49erGBR735HSC

The 2000 is a much more tippier boat, we've
advanced complete beginners from sailing wayfarers to 2000s and quite a
few of them have had swimming lessons when such a problem would not
have occured if they were still sailing wayfarers. The general impresion
we gained from most of our adult pupils at a comercial establshment was
that the wayfarer was a good grounding for cruising and racing and the
2000 was the next step up. When teaching basic skills and seamanship
skills we'd choose to use the Wayfarer, we generally tended to use the
2000 for more advanced and racing courses. Most of the adults we taught
in the 2000s loved it but some prefered the wayfarer because it was less
of a racing boat. The Wayfarer is a brilliant boat and can have a racing
pedigree about it if you choose to go that direction but I'd say just now is
still the ideal family boat.


Interesting feedback - thanks.

What about the RS Vision? How would you rate that?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 49erGBR735HSC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Mar 06 at 9:05pm
Not sailed the Vision but it had teething problems, reckon it will be a boat pretty much like the Topper Xenon, still pretty racey.

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Thanks, any idea what the teething problems are?

I looked at the Xenon and it looks fun, but too racey for my requirements.

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i've sailed the vision, and its quite well sorted. Easy to reef, just zip the main up, carrys weight quite well and not too bad for a plastic boat
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I can't remember exactly what the problems were but know it had something to do with the front end of the boat and possibly the mast step. RS should have addressed them though.

 

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The 14 is a great value boat at the moment caoable of family sailing as well as going for a blast. Granted I would have bought the Vision if funds allowed but as RS have sown up the second hand market by buying back the boats I think the 14 is the best value in its class.

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