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I don't doubt that the story about the skeg being to damp things down a bit is true, the skeg being such a very unusual feature in a boat without rowing in its task list.
And I'm also of the opinion that RS got it pretty much right, lively enough to be interesting in an adult's race boat, but not so lively as to put people off.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 22 at 7:19pm
I'd say it's a bit like the Firefly in that it's easy to sail till it bites you in the bum when you get the boat handling wrong. In a bit of breeze, I couldn't get the hang of using little enough of the quite big rudder, so we swam. And the more we swam, the more nervous I became and the worse it got. That's not a fault of the boat, it's me cocking up.
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I borrowed a 200 on a couple of occasions after selling my N12 to emigrate, and off the back of 15+ years of 400 sailing.  I was surprised how much closer to the 12 the 200 was in feel, not much like a 400.  We enjoyed it though, and no doubt if we'd done more it would all begin to feel normal.  They are certainly uber popular!
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I wouldn't describe a 200 as "twitchy" really. They are a bit roly-poly like most wide, short boats though punish errors a lot less than many racing dinghies.
Obviously you won't get away massive boat handling errors like you can in a Wayfarer for example, but everything is fairly progressive. If you can sail any racing dinghy well, you're likely to be able to manage a 200 without many issues. Which is of course why they are popular and make a good boat for the Endeavour.
For their size, they do actually carry a heavyweight helm quite well - a Phantom or Finn sailor might be a bit big for the front but would be fine helming with a lightweight crew.
I owned one for a while, and my main impression of them was that the spinnaker was a bit small and they felt a bit gutless downwind - but that was from the perspective of a regular Fireball sailor who'd also recently owned a B14!! Ultimately though, it's the small spinnaker which makes them successful. They are about the only one of the "new" (post 1990s) crop of doublehanded boats which work round the cans at all those local muddy puddle clubs so many of us sail at.
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Given the number at the nationals, and the demographics of them (lots of the young adults who are hard to keep in the sport, I understand) they could be the sort of boat the industry, World Sailing and others should be promoting instead of the less accessible classes they tend to publicise.


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Originally posted by Ian99

I wouldn't describe a 200 as "twitchy" really. They are a bit roly-poly like most wide, short boats though punish errors a lot less than many racing dinghies.
Obviously you won't get away massive boat handling errors like you can in a Wayfarer for example, but everything is fairly progressive. If you can sail any racing dinghy well, you're likely to be able to manage a 200 without many issues. Which is of course why they are popular and make a good boat for the Endeavour.
For their size, they do actually carry a heavyweight helm quite well - a Phantom or Finn sailor might be a bit big for the front but would be fine helming with a lightweight crew.
I owned one for a while, and my main impression of them was that the spinnaker was a bit small and they felt a bit gutless downwind - but that was from the perspective of a regular Fireball sailor who'd also recently owned a B14!! Ultimately though, it's the small spinnaker which makes them successful. They are about the only one of the "new" (post 1990s) crop of doublehanded boats which work round the cans at all those local muddy puddle clubs so many of us sail at.

I think the 200 carries weight well for it's size mainly because it is a heavy boat itself ... shame they built it like a tank.


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"shame they built it like a tank."


Really? I always though the 200 was a little on the light side?
Are there any lighter hiking double handers of a similar size on the market?


Edited by windyrich76 - 05 Nov 22 at 10:52am
Boats and floaty things are too distracting. So I'm told.
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Comparing the bare hull weight of a RS200 at 78kg to a N12 at 78kgs ( including mast and centreboard) seems to suggest the 200 is no light weight but itís no porker either .
It seems to sit in that nice average  space ,weight wise. 


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Originally posted by Mongoose

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Hull only weight 68kg . Smile


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