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423zero
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Topic: RRS 18 Rule change proposal Posted: 23 Jun 22 at 7:55pm |
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Would have been interesting if there had been a collision with, let's say six, which would have been the one most likely to be outside the zone. What rules would have been called?
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Robert
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jun 22 at 10:43pm | |
Well, 7 was actually clear ahead of 6 at the point when 6 first entered the zone, not sure if 7 was in the zone before 6 or just after but either way I think 18.2 b covers it.
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ClubRacer
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jun 22 at 11:01pm | |
7 was clear ahead of 6? Please could you drawer a diagram as I can't vision it.
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jun 22 at 9:27am | |
At P1 1 - 6 were clear ahead of 7 & 8 after they had gybed 7 & 8 were clear ahead (by the definition of 'clear ahead') of 6 and probably 5. There diagram iOS not accurately to scale but the relative positions of the three relevant boats are substantially correct. The skipper of 6 would probably see things differently but I can't see how he could argue that he had entered the zone before gybing.
6 is red, 7 is green and 8 is blue
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ClubRacer
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jun 22 at 12:02pm | |
I wouldn't agree they were clear ahead in p2, the second they gybed they were overlapped
I would say neither are clear astern of each other and therefore are overlapped and they meet the criteria of rule 18 and sailing more than ninety degrees from the true wind The result is the same though, 7+ 8 are overlapped inside of 4, 5 + 6
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jun 22 at 1:40pm | |
Yes, you're right of course. As you say neither is clear astern of the other.
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jun 22 at 5:17pm | |
Would make a interesting race to set a course like 'the magic roundabout', Swindon if you have never heard of it, brilliant in the rush hour
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Robert
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jun 22 at 2:41pm | |
Set it in training a while ago. You had a central mark with a ring if buoys outside of it, maybe 5. You sail round an outer buoy, round the middle one to the next outer, and so on. With several boats, it becomes a lot of fun. Best done in plastic boats. |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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The Q
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jun 22 at 2:59pm | |
I set a square course once, in normal club racing..
Sail round the square,
Then from number 1 pin sail to number 2 and back, Then from Number 1 to sail to number 3 and back, Then from Number 1 to sail to number 4 and back The sail the square again.. I didn't ring the finishing bell for the commodore who sailed the wrong course... |
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Still sailing in circles
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patj
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jun 22 at 5:15pm | |
Yes the "flower" course - round the edge of each petal in turn coming back to the centre each time. As for the "magic roundabout" isn't that going in any direction you wish as long as you take the marks to starboard (UK driving) ??
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