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    Posted: 11 Mar 22 at 7:53pm
Was having a great race….. down wind rapid capsize and the boom is pointing sky wards and we where being pushed down wind quickly. I was near dagger board, if I’d have tried to get on the deck side and pulled on the main sheet the boat would have sailed away. The forces, speed of drift made getting on the board impossible. I moved towards the bow and eventually the boat rounded up, the boom fell back to the water and I could right easily….. my hard earned gains had all been lost. 

And hits on recovery from a boom up capsize 
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Sounds like you bossed it.  Thumbs Up
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Depends on the boat but with the boom up I suspect you would have turtled very quickly if you'd tried to climb up the deck side. I'm not sure there is a standard method of recovery in that situation  and it will certainly be class dependent. If it's blowing these days I use some kind of masthead float, I'm sure to slows me down a little around the course but in a 7 foot deep lake the time saved keeping the mast out of the mud and the extra little bit of confidence more than compensates. 
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Here's a technique that might prove useful in windy conditions. I can only speak for the ILCA, but it might work for any similar boat which doesn't fill with water. It wouldn't work with a Solo, for instance.

If the boat is still pointed roughly downwind after a windward capsize, and the boom is still up in the air, keep your body in the water as though you're still sailing, with feet under the toestraps. Pull the sheet in so that the sail angle is about 40 degrees to the water surface: the wind will get under the sail and right the boat, and you can sail off looking as though you meant to do it. If you're lucky it takes only a few seconds.

Discovered by accident several years ago, after seeing boardsailors do waterstarts. Only works in F4+, I guess, but it's worth a try, a lot quicker than trying to right the boat any other way.

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I would always do a San Francisco roll after windy windward capsize, in light winds might take my time for the boat to align to the wind, since you might end up holding onto the plate under the boat!   If you get the chance before righting, let the kicker off, it will make the righting process much easier.  To prevent the capsize read Start to Win by Eric Twiname 
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I would be interested to see how Eric Twiname said you should avoid a windward capsize
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To quote from Eric Twiname:
'You can counteract the kind of windward capsize in three ways if you act quick enough:
1. Push the helm hard away from you and immediately . . .

2. Pull in the mainsheet

3. Have the crew nip smartly from his sitting out position to the middle of the boat.'

Start to Win, p. 36.


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Yes-he never mentioned bearing away!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Gordon 1430 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Mar 22 at 4:26pm
Did the classic yesterday, first time out this year, thought I needed to practice my tacking on the 4th or 5th came out the tack hiked out but hadnt put my feet under the toe straps, splash.
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