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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6491 |
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Wasn't really thinking about it until I was getting bored waiting to leave the show on Saturday 2-3 hours and I'm about done and I made the mistake of coming to the show with the Club Contenderati who frankly are worse than a shoe shopping trip with the breadknife in full Imelda Marcus mode for gossipping.
Couple of weeks ago I went to the bike show at Excel, and tbh you don't really notice who or what skin tint is riding it, it's the bike you check out, but when I think about it, the comparison between that show and the sea of white faces at Farnborough does give the lie to the total lack of diversity in the dinghy world and causes you to wonder why. I swear to God I didn't notice a single face of any ethnicity other than white unless you count mild mediterranean Portuguese in the Pornstar designer. In this day and age, I find it very strange. I was there as it turned out pretty much all day saturday and being bored actually started to look around. Nada. Woke bomb not going to well for them is it? |
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3298 |
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Not your problem or any one individual, (unless you are persuading people not to sail), """issue""" , if it exists ? Purely responsibility of an organisation. None trained individuals will try to hard and target audience will think "fake".
Sailing is perceived to be a moneyed sport, end of. Edited to add, bl00dy difficult too.
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Its a good question and true that sailing is not attracting non-white participants. The same is also true in other sports such as skiing and it is also often discussed on similar forums. I think the question to ask is whether we are excluding or turning away non-white people which would be a big issue or is it that our sport is not attractive to non-white participants. Over the years I have spoken to my friends who are black or asian about this and their initial reaction is that they tend to feel the cold so they avoid sports where they perceive they will be cold and wet. I have no idea if this is actually true or whether it is a reason. I really hope as a sport we are welcoming to anyone who wants to participate and colour or ethnicity should be totally irrelevant!
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6491 |
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Well kite and windsurfers don't seem to have those problems, plenty of multiracial participation there, even at our club, but they tend not to be dinghy sailors in fact pretty much everything else I do or am involvced in these days has a fairly normal spread. As I said I didn't even notice it, until left to my own devices but not able to wander off because my phone battery was flat, not something you go round looking for, but our dinghy show seems to be the exception. Weired.
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Alistair426 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 02 Jun 08 Location: Vatican City State Online Status: Offline Posts: 201 |
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If you consider the proportion of the UK population that participate in 'sailing' and then look at that ratio in relation to the non-white population of the UK I would suggest that you are looking at quite a small pool from which to attract participants. Then consider the demographic of the catchment of a significant proportion of sailing/yacht clubs and you might be somewhere close to having your answer. It would be interesting to hear about the diversity within clubs that consider major population centres as their catchments.
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3298 |
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Sandwell Valley sailing club, fifteen minute walk from West Brom Town centre, 100% White English, couple of years ago we had one Asian woman and a family of Poles. The lake is a tourist venue, thousand walk and cycle round every day, sport events at least once a month, we regularly take people who come to chat out, but, no takers.
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The Q ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 07 Feb 22 Location: Norfolk Broads Online Status: Offline Posts: 109 |
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Remember the population of the UK is 87% white, Most of the 13% Choose to live in the big cities where there isn't much sailing..
Where I live Norfolk, has under 2% Asian and less than 1% Black population, Our Sailing club is therefore slightly over represented by Asian / mixed race Asian, and as far as I know of our members 1 Black (should be by averages 3) who doesn't race so he's not seen around often, though he may be out in his boat. At the well advertised Horning Boat Show (30th APR this year), I've never seen a black person turn up, and only a few Asians, this a free to visit event.. We have our club Open day / Try Sailing day, at the same time. Never seen a black person there either.. You can't force them to come, we've never turned anyone down as a member..
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3298 |
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Plenty of sailing clubs in the West Midlands, a couple like mine are almost in the centre of town, Midland sailing club almost in Birmingham City centre, Bartley Green sailing club a couple of miles from most places in Birmingham, can't speak for other conurbations. I think there's a sailing club in Liverpool, quite close to the city centre, but I can only speak with accuracy about West Midlands.
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eric_c ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 359 |
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Most people I know who sail have parents who used to sail. The reasons for the lack of diversity may largely lie back in the 60s. It's slightly similar with motorbikes. Bike ownership is much less diverse than fast car ownership?
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