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Sam.Spoons
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Topic: Is that it then? Posted: 24 Nov 21 at 11:37pm |
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I believe that's the basic premise of Kickstarter. But a national fleet of 25 would be a bit marginal maybe even in the beginning?
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
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H2
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Not sure what the minimum number of boats for a fleet is - I purchased the 15th H2 to be built and we seemed to get to around 25 or 30 boats shortly thereafter. That was enough for 18 boats at the nationals and some good opens as well as plenty of chatter on the association FB page between owners. Then Brexit and COVID came along and things really slowed down. I recall chatting to a friend who expressed that it was a make or break time for the class so I was relieved when lockdown ended and the orders started to flow in. Last weekend the 50th boat was launched and the order book is full for the year ahead. Interestingly the boats sell within a few days when they come up and the cost of depreciation is around £500 per year which is pretty good. As one of the last "new" classes I hope this info helps in the discussion?
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H2 #115 (sold)
H2 145 OK 2082 |
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turnturtle
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that's exceptional - I always banked on £1000 per annum, it could easily be worse.
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getafix
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Many established classes started out with a lot less than 25 boats and usually can trace their heritage back to one or two clubs, so I think there is a difference between local viability and national critical mass. Given how varied conditions are across the nation, it could well be that a modular design, allowing open rig/sail/foil choices would be better than trying to start a new OD class?
For example inland owners may prefer deeper foils and higher rigs, whereas sea sailors may prefer centre-boards and lower aspect sails. |
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Feeling sorry for vegans since it became the latest fad to claim you are one
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Grumpycat
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Evening TT . Well you have always been the forums expert on depreciation , with the amount of class jumping you did Anyway glad you’re back again however fleetingly. Still enjoying the Spanish sunshine?
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 21 at 11:15am | ||
Not the only thing he was expert at... |
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Grumpycat
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 21 at 3:45pm | ||
It’s still a better look than seeing him in a wetsuit.
Tbh he looks more like Merlinboy in that picture .
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maxibuddah
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thats because that is Russ. Jimbo never wore the bottle
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Grumpycat
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Nov 21 at 11:29pm | ||
I thought so . But it would be unlike me to call grf wrong lol .
I’ve had loads of disagreements with James over the years but have never taken it personally. I cannot say the about Russ. He took against me early on with the Dzero when I said it looked like a wet boat. I went to the dinghy show the year after the Dzero launched, and he wouldn’t speak to me , he just glared at me and my wife when we went to the Dzero stand. He even attacked my wife on fb on a unrelated post about her not liking water in the face when sailing . He was a silly little boy in my view . On the other hand , he is not sailing now and I am sailing a Dzero and loving it . Edited by Grumpycat - 27 Nov 21 at 11:44pm |
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iGRF
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Shows how peeved I was then could have sworn that was jimbo in the bottle that night, but then I was busy dodging the dwarf t**sers…
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