Laurent Giles 'Jolly Boat' Exeter |
29er GBR 074 Tynemouth |
J24 (Sail No. 4239) Dartmouth |
List classes of boat for sale |
RS200 |
Post Reply | Page <1234> |
Author | ||
Old bloke
Posting king Joined: 03 Nov 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 121 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Topic: RS200 Posted: 13 Oct 21 at 3:53pm |
|
I think the 200 has been around long enough to say it has an enduring popularity. The obvious conclusion is that it fills enough of enough people's criteria.
The Tasar has always seemed to have an enthusiastic fan club, but not many UK sailors. Presumably it does not fill enough of enough people's criteria. My guess is that it is too sticky and underpowered for ponds and if you have a bit space the why not have a spinnaker and trapeze |
||
sargesail
Really should get out more Joined: 14 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1459 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 21 at 4:37pm | |
Well I can vouch for it having been there when they weighed in….without being unchivalrous Nik Douglas (and her Dad) are older than you think. Also worth noting that James did not have the same pace when the breeze blew. Finally to suggest a 200 is a difficult pull up the beach….did the one you tried have square wheels? |
||
sargesail
Really should get out more Joined: 14 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1459 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 21 at 4:43pm | |
You might look at the Tasar as a modem Enterprise….but it has been around for 46 of the Enterprise’s 75 years. I’d also respectfully suggest that the rotating mast and sliding shrouds which are key to the Tasar’s performance are a whole lot more complex and difficult for the crew than the 200’s spinnaker. Crewing the Tasar is a never ending jobs list. It’s one of the reasons I liked it. |
||
2547
Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 21 at 5:46pm | |
I think its more a factor that the RS marketing machine and their excellent events schedule and parties in the 90s and 00s was second to none ... that was a bigger factor in the popularity than the equipment.
|
||
Mozzy
Far too distracted from work Joined: 21 Apr 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 209 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 21 at 6:57pm | |
I think Nic said somewhere that they were 147. I know my parents in law are over 150 because they discussed getting a 200 and it was the low weight that was an issue (plus they love the tasar anyway).
There is a decent fleet of tasar and 200s at HISC, but not much crossover, whereas quite a few of the tasar sailor are or were recently in merlins. So the weight difference between the two is significant enough for the average sailor at club level and enough difference for the two to cohabit the same club happily. Generally my point is, if you're 115-135 kilo, then a 200 is probably as fast as you will go whilst staying competitive) without sticking a trapeze on. I do sympathize with the evaluation of the 200 not really hitting it's PY inland, and it's actually still quite difficult in most places unless you have broad reaches. The spinnaker makes for interesting racing, but if you judge it by laps times only then it's a very questionable addition. At the endeavour Stu Bithell did away with it and straight lined the shore doing quite nicely, the laser boys gained a few boat doing the same. However, I am not sure the tasar is an obvious solution to the 200s deficiencies. It really sticks below 7 knots and a 200 will beat it on most points of sail except dead downwind. The 200 kite can be frustrating in fluky light conditions and constricted waters, the the Tasars tacking mast and sliding shrouds, plus the mainsheet / traveller set up can make the repetitive tacks and gybes quite the task. The Ent really is a great boat in that regard, simple and effective. However, the class really seems to have dropped away (except in looe!). The 12 is also great, but has an ideal weight below that of the 200. All in all the 200 is fairly quick, certainly in terms of average speed if not time around a course! It's quite robust and not as heavy as similar more 'training' orientated configurations. There are a few niggles to watch out for which I went through in my first reply.
|
||
Paramedic
Really should get out more Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 21 at 7:42am | |
The main reason to buy a 200 is the class racing.
My advice to the OP would be to read everyone's opinions back though the thread - albeit in my view excessively negative - and decide if the areas highlighted as poor will be a problem. Depending on the price it may well be worth a punt regardless as i've never known anyone struggle to sell a decent 200. If this one has hung around there might be a reason. There is no perfect classs!
Edited by Paramedic - 14 Oct 21 at 7:43am |
||
Sussex Lad
Far too distracted from work Joined: 08 Jun 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 359 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 21 at 9:48am | |
I reckon. and it's a SMOD innit. Well as close to a SMOD as makes no difference Very appealing and does make life easier if all you want to do is sail or race a sailing dinghy. |
||
Mark Aged 42
Groupie Joined: 24 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 98 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 21 at 11:54am | |
As the OP what I am learning from this is:
1) Crew weight ideally around 130kg. That is a good fit for me and MrsMA42, or my son, (MA17??) and crew 2) RS200 may not be competitve on PY. Not an issue, its more for fun racing. I'm not competitive in the Radial either! 3) The hull is sturdy and will give long service 4) We are on the Thames Estuary (Leigh-on-Sea), so the course shapes can vary dramatically week by week depending on wind direction. So some weeks the RS200 will shine, and other it wont. I don't really care, its about fun racing. Thanks all for your contributions, keep them coming |
||
Do Different
Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 21 at 2:27pm | |
Nice one Mark. Have fun.
|
||
Gordon 1430
Far too distracted from work Joined: 27 Jun 17 Location: Lee on Solent Online Status: Offline Posts: 310 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 21 at 8:27am | |
Hi Mark
Have a great time, and keep out the Mud. 200 should fine to pull up the slips onto the racks. Cheers Gordon lived at Leigh on sea until I was 18. and ex member of the club.
|
||
Gordon
Phantom 1430 |
||
Post Reply | Page <1234> |
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |