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Topic: 12 footers Posted: 16 Jan 06 at 9:55pm |
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When will someone build a 12 foot skiff in this country!!!!!!
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timnoyce
Really should get out more Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 06 at 10:00pm | |
if u want to give me the cash i will build one....
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*Poke*
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 06 at 10:14pm | |
If i had the money
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Isis
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 06 at 10:20pm | |
Weve had this before...
UK cherubs measure as 12s and can race with them anytime you fancy shipping one to the southern hemisphere. Our new rigs are the equivelant of their no3 rigs with slightly smaller kites and at least one, and I think possibly 2 cherubs have 12 footer no2 rigs they play with every now and again. So to answer your question your gonna have to specify you you define '12 foot skiff' If it has to have a badge on which states it, wait a few years untill we get some imported. Otherwise open your eyes and look closer |
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Jack Sparrow
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 06 at 10:36pm | |
The only difference now between UK Cherubs and 12 ft skiffs is that 12
footers have multiple unlimited rigs and there min weight is 40kg instead of 50kg, UK Cherubs have a rig which is close to what a 12 footer uses when the breeze is fresh. We have limited sail area and limited the mast height to keep the boats within a reasonable cost. We also don't have fixed bow sprits for practical reasons. I've said this before but most UK Clubs not having a skiff tradition can get a bit narked with all us Cherub boys rolling over our boats to rig, if you then combine that with another 20 ft of pole out the front space and understanding is likely to become a big issue. So for now anyone wanting to see what a 12 footer is like should get onboard a 2005 rules UK Cherub. It's the closest thing you are going to get this side of a £600 pound air fair or about £18,000 if you want to build one. Oh plus.... if you start off in a 2005 UK Cherub you might have a cat in hells chance of being able to sail one! |
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Isis
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 06 at 10:45pm | |
12s actualy have a 45kg minimum weight which doesnt include that hefty bowsprit Cherubs are 50kg but DO include the bowsprit and thier rigs weigh a lot less so theres not much difference at all
Id definantly agree there, I have enough trouble finding space to roll the moth over some days: doing the same with the cherub is not something im really looking foreward too and thats without that huge fixed pole, and without swapping the entire rig everytime you got sailing to match the wind conditions. Edited by Isis |
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Strawberry
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 06 at 11:58pm | |
I'll second that |
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jimmywalsh
Newbie Joined: 08 Oct 04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 20 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 06 at 10:31am | |
12s actualy have a 45kg minimum weight which doesnt include that hefty bowsprit Bowsprits weigh about 1.5- 2kgs, masts weigh about 8-10 kgs so still about 3-4 kgs lighter, but that deosn't seem to make a huge difference, Riggin rolling over takes no more than 15 minutes on your side |
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 06 at 12:27pm | |
There is one effective 12 in the UK, a converted Cherub with a No2 12 rig from Fyfe in NZ. Nothing with a full size rig though. Its a gloriously fun boat to sail although not my personal taste for every week.
Go to fotoboat, look up[ the Cherub class page, go to the 2004 Nationals/Moth Eurpeans page and its the second from the left on the top row of the first page Edited by JimC |
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5420
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 06 at 12:33pm | |
we should see if we can get a fleet of them and go and se if we can get a team to go and win the worlds it would only proby take us 5 years to cach up with the AUS and then NZ |
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