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    Posted: 24 Aug 21 at 6:39am
Can anyone direct me to online results for the Solo Nationals? It seems to have all gone wrong yesterday. Every boat DSQ?

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I saw some posted on their facebook page. Comments suggest the whole fleet failed to sail the course and the race teams DSQ'd them. So one less discard for the series. 

As a side I thought that would be a good opportunity to use the new score of NSC... but they went with DSQ. Same points either way. 
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Thatís a big call to make for the race team, I bet the atmosphere in the dinghy park was pretty dour
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Be an interesting case for a redress hearing. If the competitors could make a case that there was an improper action by the race committee which led to the competitors sailing the wrong course and if *all* competitors sailed the wrong course then it could be argued that fair redress would be to place everyone in their finishing positions. If everyone did indeed get it wrong then it seems very likely there was some kind of stuff up in race organisation, but whether that stuff up was enough to make the bar for an improper action would be another matter. If I were on the PC though I think I'd be inclined to find for the competitors, no matter how unfair it was on the PC, and invite an appeal.
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Originally posted by nutonthetiller

Can anyone direct me to online results for the Solo Nationals? It seems to have all gone wrong yesterday. Every boat DSQ?



Is it me, or are many classes losing the plot in terms of getting Natiionals results and reports published in a timely fashion?

Taking an interest in this year's champs for a few classes  might be influencing what people aspire to next year. When all you get is negatives and hearsay, it's not a good look.

Intrigued to know how things can go this badly wrong for a championships course. Champs usually have pretty simple courses compared to some of the 'pointless harbour tour' courses in our evening racing. Were the SIs in Kernish?
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Seems like the whole fleet followed the leader to the finish a lap short. Neither shortened nor blue flying.

No error by the race committee so no way to give redress!
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Originally posted by sargesail

Seems like the whole fleet followed the leader to the finish a lap short. Neither shortened nor blue flying.

No error by the race committee so no way to give redress!


When that happens the race team have to be very careful not to give outside assistance to any boat!
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Originally posted by sargesail

Seems like the whole fleet followed the leader to the finish a lap short.

That's why I don't care for the policy to have finishes that are off the track. I think if I'd been on the RC I would have accidentally lost count of the laps. Which would be an improper action [grin].




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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by sargesail

Seems like the whole fleet followed the leader to the finish a lap short.

That's why I don't care for the policy to have finishes that are off the track. I think if I'd been on the RC I would have accidentally lost count of the laps. Which would be an improper action [grin].



Would be hugely unfair if there were a few people back down the fleet who could count and possibly set a dangerous precedent? 'I'm leading, so let's head for the finish now.....'

Could be a grey area if there's a 'target race duration' or getting near a time limit, people might reasonably assume the sane thing for the race team to do would be to shorten, and lets face it, the flags are not always that easy to see??




we don't have this problem at club level, tend to keep going until the blue flag goes up, just tell the guys in the boat not to use the blue flag to check the wind direction!
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Oh dear,, I suppose you get to a certain age....

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