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5420
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Topic: 2 Man Boat for Fatties Posted: 17 Jan 06 at 9:51am |
the SB3 has a really big fleet now and they look good fun to sail and if you are slity to hevey you just have 2 people in them insted of 3 or why dont you just get an 18 and sail it 2 up so its just like a 49er for big people
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Shingle
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jan 06 at 10:06am |
I think you need to have another go, you can overdo the control lines and kill the rig. What were the wind strengths and how heavy are you? We're 25st and generally have ample power. In a 2-3 we can keep pace on the water with well sailed 800s, above that they rocket away, but downwind you go deeper and hence make up some ground. Perhaps you've saw the marketing and thought they were easy to sail!
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Shingle
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jan 06 at 10:07am |
By the way before anyone comments 25st all up!
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combat wombat
Far too distracted from work Joined: 16 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 345 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jan 06 at 10:10am |
Weight in the B14 ranges from 21.5 stone to about 26 stone
competitively, plus 500 sq/f of sail downwind means theres no such
thing as underpowered in the B.
They are also cheap and have a good following. 5420 - like to see someone sailing an 18 2-up! Imagine the kite hoists and drops, would probably be absolute carnage :) |
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gordon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jan 06 at 10:38am |
Could we define what we mean by a boat for heavy weights. When people are talking about 25 st in a boat I presume they are talking about a single-hander ( or at most an adult and child boat!) 30 stone is only 190.44 kilos... is that heavy? In rugby terms that would be 2 modern centres sailing together! As an ex-second row (not very good), I would consider that a heavy weight boat should cater for 2 front five rugby players (front and second row) say twice 115/120 kilos. That gives a crew weight of some 230/240 kilos - 36/39 st. If you can find a third person light enough (can go down to the leeward side) you could sail a Dragon or an Etchells. I have been convinced for many years that it is ISAF policy to transform sailing into a sport for children, dwarfs and anorexics. Could it be that it is this trend that contributes to the slow decline of dinghy sailing. As each generation becomes bigger (and unfortunately fatter) but stays fit and active far longer, surely it is time to start catering for the larger sailor. Hiking fleets that provide quality tactical racing can attract more mature, experienced sailors...take a look at an International Snipe event (or, dare I say it the Ents/GPs, Wayfarers/Squibs... a public that may well not be attracted to a two-wire flying machine. It is surely time to provide them with a suitable boat!
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gordon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jan 06 at 10:40am |
5420 - I presume you were talking about the National 18 not the low-flying light aircraft the Aussies race! Gordon |
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Pierre
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jan 06 at 11:02am |
I agree with everything you say Gordon. Spot on mate. There isn't a weoght carry two man hiking boat out there. Simple as that. |
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5420
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jan 06 at 11:07am |
no gordan i was tyalking about the 18 foot skiffs but i dont think it would be as bad as people think iv heard of people doing it befor and when you think about it its just a big 5000 it would not be that bad it would be good fun in light winds to |
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russell
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jan 06 at 11:10am |
I made this mistake, boy did I get a shock, but then its no fun if its too easy. I was swimming 3 boat lengths off the shore the first time I sailed mine. I ruled out the B14 because of the bag launched kite, the fact that I would have to get a crew under 11 stone and also they don't really compete in light airs at all - you see the crews right up on the bows - and with my bulk at the back there would be no point. I also think it would just be too fast on our lake. There was one last season and I don't think I ever saw them with the kite up. |
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Sumo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jan 06 at 12:42pm |
Being a big chap myself I have found that their are very few modern (ish) dinghies that cope with my weight. I have sailed the 59er and loved it, but it is fair to say that they can be tricky to keep under the mast. The 4k is a nice boat, but I'm to heavy to trapeze off that mast, and as mentioned earlier in the thread, that is where you want the weight. I spent the weekend sailing a friends 5k and loved every minute of it. It may be a heavy old beast with a horrible bag for the genny, but for a big crew it is ideal. |
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