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fleaberto
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Topic: Tow Cars Posted: 05 Oct 21 at 3:22pm |
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The solution at the moment is to power the trailer/caravan itself.
Out there and, apparently, available to buy. Towed 240 miles across the Alps recently, behind an Audi E-Tron Sportback without recharging. And this, a small teardrop trailer, with its own power source, that charges your EV as you go. https://cleantechnica.com/2021/08/12/new-teardrop-trailer-for-electric-vehicles/ Edited by fleaberto - 06 Oct 21 at 10:34am |
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NicolaJayne
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Oct 21 at 3:24pm | |
seen the current X5 hybrid ? a friend of mine is being messed around on delivery dates for hers at present ; however , in terms of this thread- she and her wife chose the X5 because of towing capacity ( might want to tow an enclaosed car trailer for competition car) and interior space (thinking about family needs) ... |
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eric_c
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Oct 21 at 3:58pm | |
A claimed electric range of 54 miles. Likely about 40 when towing a boat? A very expensive bit of greenwashing, which is likely to use more dinosaur fuel than my old banger on a typical open meeting weekend. It's immensely heavy and will use a lot of enegy. Probably has a higher lifetime carbon footprint than a lot of sensible petrol cars. Plugin hybrids are very good for some people. I have a mate who has one, he generally manages to use it about 90% electric, but he's on call and needs to know he can drive a long way at short notice, so a pure BEV wouldn't work.
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NickA
Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 783 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Nov 21 at 6:33pm | |
Bit late on this .... But my 150bhp 1.4tsi Octavia with three large blokes inside it, towed:
A double stack trailer loaded with two javelins and all their kit, three bikes, camping gear for three. Bit slow off the mark, getting over hills between Roscoff and Carnac a bit trying. Only got 30mpg ( usually get 50+ ). Did the job though. One javelin no problem. One 3000, forget it's there. We took an outlander phev to Holland a previous year and by the time we'd gone 30 miles, the battery was flat and it was just a heavy 2.0 diesel. |
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Nov 21 at 12:38am | |
You did well to get 30 miles on battery, most Hybrids only have around 20 miles range before the ICE kicks in...
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423zero
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10483317/amp/Are-electric-cars-new-diesel-scandal-Expert-looks-future-road-travel.html#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16442157765332&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com
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eric_c
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Feb 22 at 10:22am | |
Are electric cars the 'new diesel scandal'? I don't know, but I'm pretty happy with my scandalous diesel, apart from the fact that its mileage is now higher than the sail number of my Laser. The problem is not 'diesel cars' or 'petrol cars' or 'electric cars' it's too many cars, too many peole needing to drive too far, too often. But I don't think it matters any more, I think the climate is a long way past the point of no return.
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Chris_H
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Feb 22 at 10:36am | |
As 423zero resurrected this thread, though I would chip in. I just ordered a new car yesterday. I dont buy my cars, I lease - its generally cheaper and I dont have the hassle of selling on. I really, really wanted to buy an electric car. Despite the doom stories of electric not being as eco as we all may think, it is kinda irrelevant. World governments have dictated that by 2030 (in most countries) that is the cut off point, so we might as well suck it up buttercup.
Before covid, I was doing 15-20k miles per year. Travelling all over the place mainly for pleasure. Nowadays, with work enabling me to be at home mostly, and my leisure activities now mainly local, I now struggle to do 8k miles per year and I dont see that changing any time soon. My Jaguar E-Pace is coming to the end of its lease and starting to look like an expensive irrelevance. I looked at pretty much every electric car on the market, that was in budget. I have reduced my bedget to cater for my adjusted mileage. But can you find an affordable (to me) electric car that I actually WANT to drive that is certified to tow? Needle in a haystack for sure. Lease costs for a small electric car were coming in at more than my E-Pace! It has been a 6 month search and eventually have given up on electric this time round. The numbers dont add up and what there is wont allow you to tow. Maybe nearer to 2030, where there is more choice, more traction and more cars certified to tow, will be the decider. I dont have an issue with electric car range. In my view the issue is over-stated. How many people regularly journey over the stated range each day? Having a "fuel station" at home that I could use for buttons, is better for me than having to fill up with liquid-gold at the petrol station. However, I have ordered a Peugeot 2008 GT in Pearlescent White. (lets not go down that old trope about French car poor quality coz it just isnt true anymore). Its a nice car, nice inside, has cool 3D digital dashboard - and can tow. Delivery July, as I dont need it until then. If only there was a similar lease cost electric car, of similar size, that was certified to tow...... Edited by Chris_H - 07 Feb 22 at 10:44am |
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PeterG
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Feb 22 at 11:00am | |
A fairly typical DM "shock horror" piece, based on well known facts and little else.
Yes, cost, access to charging and range are issues - but that's hardly new, and barely newsworthy . Yes, if you generate all your electricity from HCs then you gain nothing (though you do reduce urban pollution, which they don't mention) but that's increasingly less true, and as they are a form of energy storage combined with smart metering and charging they could help to store energy when renewables are plentiful or in excess.. Yes, cars are only part of the problem, and those need tackling too. Nothing new to see here.
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Feb 22 at 12:03pm | |
You'll only get 30 miles on the flat but given the Outlander is actually a petrol hybrid you have to doubt the tale. I'm still running one, picked up the Contender using it and whilst it's true the long journeys (Pagham and Back) don't afford much use of the battery and I have still yet to find a charge unit that's actually working in the three years we've been running hybrids, they are totally the thing to have if your journeys are predominantly local as mine are these days, club and back, nearby shopping centres etc and we use very little dinofuel and are fully solar powered so smug green at home. We also run an Audi 3 series Etron Hybrid which we need to replace shortly, can't have Mrs La di dah Gunner Graham running around her mates on an old plate, but I'm simply astounded at how prices have hiked. These days with PCPs etc they tend to ignore the actual price being charged for these things and just look at monthly fees, so contract leasing is looking very tempting. We had considered that X5 but agree with everything pointed out above, so right now the search is on again and Mercedes is regretably back in her cross hairs. Me I'm looking at the Custom Transit Hybrid, quite like the look of that, but what I really want is a Hybrid Pick Up which as yet has yet to appear over here unless anyone knows different. Edited by iGRF - 07 Feb 22 at 12:10pm |
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