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JimC
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Topic: RS Sailing announces new RS200 Builder Posted: 22 Feb 21 at 3:57pm |
https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/235412/RS-Sailing-announces-partnership-with-Gingerboats
Anyone know anything about this? Surprised me. I'd never heard of Gingerboats, but according to their web site https://www.gingerboats.co.uk/ (if I have the right one!) they do wood GPs and wooden decked Ovington Solo shells, so they don't seem like the most obvious of choices. I know RS tend to outsource their building, but they don't usually publicise their sub contractors, and the RS200 surely isn't the same situation as the RS300. Edited by JimC - 22 Feb 21 at 4:03pm |
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davidyacht
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Feb 21 at 4:36pm |
Believe that they will be moulding the Ex Ovington/Boon Solo for Rooster.
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jaydub
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Feb 21 at 5:08pm |
You are both correct:
- Jim for identifying the correct Gingerboats web site - David for confirming the that they will be building the new Rooster Solo using the Boon moulds that Ovington bought when Boon pulled out of building boats. I think it is a step up for Gingerboats, but Phil is a talented boat builder and has worked for Ovis and they are getting assistance from Kevin as part of the set up. I also don't think the RS team are mugs at this game and will have considered their options carefully, before selecting Phil & Alex.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Feb 21 at 6:56pm |
Sign of the times?
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Grumpycat
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Feb 21 at 7:33pm |
Pardon my ignorance, but who has been building them for the last few years ?
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ClubRacer
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Feb 21 at 8:43pm |
Boat yard at Beer have been making them for a while and I have one of the newer ones, other than a couple of design faults from RS the actual build quality of mine has been really good (other than them using a section of ply for a fixing which was a little too small for the actual fixing!!).
Will be interesting to see what the new ones come out like as all 200's seem very very close in performance. I just hope this means the prices can be kept down as at the moment £13,500 for a new 200 is a joke
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Gordon 1430
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 Feb 21 at 9:19am |
HI Jaydub
I think RS do a great job but they have made the odd cock up with boat builders not in anyway saying Ginger will be another Brazil. |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 Feb 21 at 9:42am |
I think this is just what new boats cost to make really - if you look across a range of classes I think this kind of cost is now pretty typical. Was chatting to a friend who builds boats for a living and he suggested that even at these prices there is not really huge money to be made and the he expects prices to have to keep rising.
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davidyacht
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 Feb 21 at 4:13pm |
Forty or so years ago Spud Rowsell said that a new Merlin cost the same as a Mini. Current base price of a Mini is around £ 15k, so £ 13,500 doesn't seem far off the mark.
I guess that Kevin wasn't seeing much of that £ 13,500 and I hope for Ginger Boats that they can weather any storms that RS may encounter. As an observer of the marine industry, it tends to be the marketeers that survive the ups and downs, not the boatbuilders.
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 Feb 21 at 5:10pm |
There was a post on the Solo FB group last November that Boatyard @ Beer Ltd was going into liquidation, maybe that's why RS need a new builder for 200s?
Boatbuilding is a pretty hands on process and even plastic boats require a certain skill level. Modern FRP boats are a far cry from CSM 'bucket and chuck it' construction of old. The guys with the necessary skills, quite reasonably, want to earn a living wage
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