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The problem clearly illustrated in a video from Alex Thompson on his team Facebook page....  Alex Thomson Racing | Facebook
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Afraid it just not meant to be

https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/233492/Vendee-Globe-Rudder-damage-on-HUGO-BOSS

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Another front runners out and one of the big Tris also out - hitting objects

The boats are so quick now that a collision with debris seems to be the end of their chances

This issue can only be getting worse as the boats get quicker and the debris (presumably) increases

At some point the sailors, and their sponsors, mast have to wonder about these amazing events ?





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Hugo boss falling apart. Linked out lost a foil. Now PRB snaps in half and sinks. How long will Apivia stay in one piece?

Meanwhile, incredible seamanship by Jean Le Cam. But what happens now? Le Cam lost hours doing rescue duties and has gained a crew ( but not enough food on board to feed him! ). Does he have to pull out or what?

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This race has always had a high attrition rate. Is this event any worse? I don't know and it may be too early to tell yet. I guess these boats are bit like F1 or WRC - built to do one job and last no longer than that. 
Surely Le Cam will get time compensation for the diversion (great rescue job BTW) and will - I guess - be met by a SA Naval vessel where KE can be transferred.


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I guess that they are lighter to get faster and as they get quicker the risk goes up hugely

To hear that one sank in minutes in the southern ocean is worrying

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Kevin Escoffier said that he had especially reinforced PRB with loads of carbon and does not regret anything in the preparation and he was amazed that it had just split in two.  His comment to race control was they need to look at how a boat like that could split in two.
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Clearly many of this batch of boats are not up to the job. The oceans are a big place they can't all have hit a shipping container or other large debris (twice in Hugo Boss' case). And they haven't even got to the serious bit yet...

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Originally posted by NickA

Hugo boss falling apart. Linked out lost a foil. Now PRB snaps in half and sinks. How long will Apivia stay in one piece?

Meanwhile, incredible seamanship by Jean Le Cam. But what happens now? Le Cam lost hours doing rescue duties and has gained a crew ( but not enough food on board to feed him! ). Does he have to pull out or what?


He should get redress.

Think that happened many ago when someone got bumped up to second or third after redress. 
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The Vendee has a history of breakages. Statistically, the average number of finishers over its history is about 50% - so it isnt just down to the current generation. PRB is actually an older gen boat - tho fitted with foils.

Its a bit premature to say the least to put it down to 'this batch' until various post-mortems have been done (and HB is in back in the shed)

F1 cars are built for one purpose only and as light as they can be, and they dont always last the race either ... and they only have to go round and round a few miles of circuit. If you wanna be in the game, calculated risk taking is part of it.

And lets not forget, Jean Le Cam himself - todays rescue hero - was himself rescued from Cape Horn in the 2008/9 race in what we would now call an old generation 'safer' boat


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