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Nice boat and probably the ideal compromise but, I suspect, significantly over the OPs budget. 



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A GRP Leader might work nicely, though.
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Hi out of interest what would you
Expect to pay for a seaworthy wanderer
With sails and trailer ?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote SoggyBadger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 20 at 4:10pm
Originally posted by John clarkson

Hi out of interest what would you
Expect to pay for a seaworthy wanderer
With sails and trailer ?

Cheers
John




There's an old one on Apollo Duck ATM for 2495. Wanderers to seem to command a high price though. If your budget can't stretch to that then maybe look for an old GRP GP14. You can sometimes find them for around 500.
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You say an Ent is too small so have a look out for Topper Sport 14 or 16, Laser 16 and, a bit more expensive, Laser Stratos. All are heavy but are very roomy, stable and good family boats.
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Or there are three Wayfarers on Apollo Duck for 1k. 
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Stratos 250kg. 
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Wayfarer 169kg. 
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Sport 16 180kg. 
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Wanderer 129kg. 
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GP14 133kg. 



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How much more room is in a Wayfarer, compared to a Enterprise? Trying to find the recent thread with the Ent for about 600,lot of boat for the money, substantially lighter too.
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Enterprise is 404 x 162 cm and 96kg (hull only) Waybarge is 485 x 185 and 167kg, the Wayfarer is significantly roomier than an Ent but a lot heavier to launch and recover. 

I love Ents and they can carry two adults and two kids in reasonable comfort under sail, oars and motor but if weight off the water is not a problem and cruising with a family is the priority then a Wayfarer is the better choice.


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A useful but nearly impossible to arrange exercise would be to compare the useful area in the cockpit of different classes to see how much usable room there is. I would *guess* that the W has something like 50% more than the E, but you pay for that with 50% more weight as is entirely reasonable.
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I had 2 tillers for my Ent' a short one for cruising (half the length of the standard),allowed you to sit right aft, and the standard one.
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My wife learnt to sail in a Wayfarer, you can get 4 adults sitting on the windward side (6 rolls in the mainsail). If you're cruising, then a Wayfarer will take 3 adults comfortably plus youngsters.
The Enterprise is good for 2 adults, and limited room for others (Assuming stern sheeting - not centre main - that reduces the crew space).
Our Wanderer(stern sheeting) is comfortable for the 2 of us, with spare space.
The advantage of the Wanderer/Wayfarer for cruising is that you can easily have roller furling for the jib and slab reefing for the mainsail. That makes it much easier to adapt to wind changes on the water.
Older GPs are good (3 - 4 adults - with care).

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