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    Posted: 06 Nov 20 at 6:21pm
If it's for cruising and the weight is not an issue onshore the Wayfarer is likely to offer best bang for buck, I don't think a GP is any roomier than an Ent though it's weight makes it a little more stable.
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GP14 and Wayfarer very stable.
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Hi thanks guys
Because of your input thinking of scrapping the kestrel

If iam going to spend 600 and days of work
On it .

Sounds like I can get something ready to
Go for that money or a bit more

Our enterprise was a little small
For my family but will look at the variants .

Out of those suggested which is most stable

Great you tube of two guys up near loch Ness on a wanderer
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My wife learnt to sail in a Wayfarer, you can get 4 adults sitting on the windward side (6 rolls in the mainsail). If you're cruising, then a Wayfarer will take 3 adults comfortably plus youngsters.
The Enterprise is good for 2 adults, and limited room for others (Assuming stern sheeting - not centre main - that reduces the crew space).
Our Wanderer(stern sheeting) is comfortable for the 2 of us, with spare space.
The advantage of the Wanderer/Wayfarer for cruising is that you can easily have roller furling for the jib and slab reefing for the mainsail. That makes it much easier to adapt to wind changes on the water.
Older GPs are good (3 - 4 adults - with care).

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 20 at 7:08am
I had 2 tillers for my Ent' a short one for cruising (half the length of the standard),allowed you to sit right aft, and the standard one.
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A useful but nearly impossible to arrange exercise would be to compare the useful area in the cockpit of different classes to see how much usable room there is. I would *guess* that the W has something like 50% more than the E, but you pay for that with 50% more weight as is entirely reasonable.
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Enterprise is 404 x 162 cm and 96kg (hull only) Waybarge is 485 x 185 and 167kg, the Wayfarer is significantly roomier than an Ent but a lot heavier to launch and recover. 

I love Ents and they can carry two adults and two kids in reasonable comfort under sail, oars and motor but if weight off the water is not a problem and cruising with a family is the priority then a Wayfarer is the better choice.


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How much more room is in a Wayfarer, compared to a Enterprise? Trying to find the recent thread with the Ent for about 600,lot of boat for the money, substantially lighter too.
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You say an Ent is too small so have a look out for Topper Sport 14 or 16, Laser 16 and, a bit more expensive, Laser Stratos. All are heavy but are very roomy, stable and good family boats.
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Or there are three Wayfarers on Apollo Duck for 1k. 
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Stratos 250kg. 
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Wayfarer 169kg. 
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Sport 16 180kg. 
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Wanderer 129kg. 
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GP14 133kg. 



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Originally posted by John clarkson

Hi out of interest what would you
Expect to pay for a seaworthy wanderer
With sails and trailer ?

Cheers
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There's an old one on Apollo Duck ATM for 2495. Wanderers to seem to command a high price though. If your budget can't stretch to that then maybe look for an old GRP GP14. You can sometimes find them for around 500.
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