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Nacnud_smada
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Topic: Room for an obstruction Posted: 24 Sep 20 at 5:52am |
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Hi,
Was hoping for some extra input into the following. We had a great debate about it after sailing but did not seem to find an answer well one thag made sense.. As it stand the solo is wrong.. What do you think? Two boats a solo and laser sailing up to a windward mark. There is an obstruction in the way in this case a pontoon. Solo calls for room to tack.. Here's no reply so tacks and then there is a collision (no damage or injury) on the back corner of the laser. Laser is saying. Solo did not give room and opertunity - solo. Said I called waited no reply and needed to tack I said that there has to be some atcipation as both boats know there pontoon is there. |
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 20 at 6:35am | ||
Start by looking at rule 20.
I can't see any 'room and opportunity' there. What is the time requirement in rule 20.2(a)? What is the time condition in the first clause of rule 20.2(c)? What is the time condition in the second clause of rule 20.2(c)? By the way, what tack were boats on to start with? |
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Nacnud_smada
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 20 at 7:04am | ||
Will do thank you
And startboard |
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Nacnud_smada
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 20 at 7:13am | ||
Sorry brass.
"I can't see any 'room and opportunity' there" Do you mean as it does not state it there. It does not need to happen... Or solo did not give? |
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 20 at 7:45am | ||
I think you'll get the drift once you look at the rule (and links to on-line versions are in the Rules Resources post at the top of this forum). If something doesn't appear in the relevant rule, why would anyone think they were entitled to it? |
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 20 at 7:47am | ||
OK, so if both boats started out close hauled on starboard, then the Solo is going to be required to keep clear from the time she passes head to wind until and after the point of contact.
Edited by Brass - 24 Sep 20 at 9:53am |
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Nacnud_smada
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 20 at 7:47am | ||
haha thanks, been trying to get my head around is since last night.. will give it a look.. many thanks again.
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PeterG
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 20 at 9:57am | ||
What about 20.2(c)? Surely the hailed boat (Laser) has to respond? The implication above is that time was given and no response was forthcoming. Was there room for the Solo to tack and keep clear?
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Peter
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Nacnud_smada
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 20 at 10:01am | ||
OK, so when tacking for an onstruction the whole tacking rule still applies? But room and opportunity does not.. Intresting |
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 20 at 10:22am | ||
That's right. So which boats broke what rules?
What if there wasn't? |
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