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Mozzy
Far too distracted from work Joined: 21 Apr 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 209 |
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Topic: 1st October - sports clubs Posted: 06 Nov 20 at 11:02am |
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I guess what is frustrating is that the government have had 6 months to plan what lockdown 2.0 will look like, and raft this legislation.
I totally support a lockdown for the purpose knocking the edge off the curve to slow hospital admissions to a manageable rate. But, I do feel outdoor sports and recreation has been given a raw deal. Legally it seems you can leave your home to go and exercise alone anywhere (doesn't have to be public, so could be any private club). But then in a sperate section, all private outdoor club are closed, seemingly not just the indoor areas, but all amenities the club offers. I get that for exercising with another they want you to use public places. As in private it does seem to be some social distancing breaks down. But all the 'open' private places, like golf clubs, etc, are closed. So you don't have any option anyways. Recreation, again is fine to leave the house for, and is a pretty loose term. I guess they wanted to avoid the whole 'is this exercise debate' which was a bit nauseating last time and allow for more sedentary, but outdoor activity (like angling). But weirdly, fisheries are staying open... because they are not on the list of places that are required to close. Unlike golf courses and water sportscentres). So you can go to a private fishing lake exercise (but not recreation, because recreation must be in a public space?) Say what??? I just don't understand why the legislation can't say 'outdoor you are limited to meeting one other person. No meeting indoors (outside of obvious exemption for work, care and legal obligations). Then close non-essential indoor business, but continue access to their outdoor facilitates.
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Sussex Lad
Far too distracted from work Joined: 08 Jun 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 359 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Nov 20 at 10:53am | |
Ideally regarding virus transmission, and I'm no expert I don't reckon it makes much difference. Person meets person, hands over toaster. The extra cost of delivering all and sundry might nibble into profit or increase cost to consumer. Either way travelling to pick up a toaster helps the economy, going to a sports club not so much. That aside. If we're talking about necessity perhaps a decent test and trace strategy might have made this whole issue less of a pain in the arse. |
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Mozzy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Nov 20 at 10:36am | |
I think lockdown is needed, and will save lives over December- January. But, it's not really a solution, or way of getting thing under control long term (out past a couple of months). I certainly don't feel it is in anyway linked to next years sailing season. Many classes were able to get up and running in the second half of the summer. Realistically, we could have been doing racing and open events in May and it wouldn't have made the blind bit of difference. We just needed time to test the water, and prove the mitigation. Once the weather improves, there is nothing to stop us picking up where we were in September at the start of the 2021 season.
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Rupert
Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Nov 20 at 8:59am | |
Toasters can be delivered (still means people out there delivering of course) so is collection a necessity? |
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Sussex Lad
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Nov 20 at 8:53am | |
Toasters and the like need to be sold, folks livelihoods depend on it. I can do other stuff for exercise.
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Paramedic
Really should get out more Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Nov 20 at 8:40am | |
The furlough scheme is now extended until the end of March. The writing is on the wall folks. If you want to maintain or improve the current 50/50 chance of having a sailing season next year everyone needs to toe the line now, and in the almost inevitable lockdown 3.0 in February.
Sailjuice and all winter class events should be cancelled, and the RYA should be pushing this. This is a low point, hopefully the lowest. But if we haven't got this under control by the beginning of next year we not be having a sailing season for the second year running and the damage to our sport will be far, far greater than losing 4 weeks time in the boat now, major travelling events now and another 4 weeks time in the boat in feb if it comes to it. This is a long game people, and we all need to do our bit :)
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bluefish
Newbie Joined: 16 Oct 16 Location: Chichester Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Nov 20 at 8:13am | |
I couldn't say whether lockdown is necessary or not, I don't know enough about the virus to decide, I just go along with what I'm told by those in charge, even though some of them can't seem to stick to their own rules but that's a different subject. Thing is the Govt is encouraging us to exercise as much as we like and visit outdoor public spaces, so why does the RYA decide to advise clubs to close dinghy parks? Does not make sense, I can drive to the park and walk with another adult from a different household but I can't go into the dinghy park by myself and take my dinghy out for a sail. I'm not asking to go into the club house I just want to go into an open space to collect my dinghy and sail.
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Nov 20 at 7:58am | |
Blue fish, I can see it makes no sense, but if one takes the view that Lockdown is necessary (I do, but you may not, which would influence opinion) then it isn't that it's crazy you can't go sailing but can pick up a toaster, but that you are allowed to pick up a toaster. Adding a trip to the sailing club, golf club, wherever club for everybody just adds to the craziness.
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bluefish
Newbie Joined: 16 Oct 16 Location: Chichester Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Nov 20 at 7:15am | |
[/QUOTE] no you can't, strictly click and collect or dropping off repairs and returns in England , Welsh store are closed until their firebreak ends .. [/QUOTE] Yes I can, Click and collect is allowed in England: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november I don't know about Wales, I don't live in Wales... |
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NicolaJayne
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Nov 20 at 12:00am | |
no you can't, strictly click and collect or dropping off repairs and returns in England , Welsh store are closed until their firebreak ends .. |
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