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Just to note that the Mirror dinghy now has the choice of a Bermudan rig as an alternative to the Gunter lug.
Far less head damage if you release the main halliard unexpectedly!
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I think the 12 is the way to go if you want to sail a proper boat reasonably competitively. Your combined weight is about right and the boat won't be skating around on the surface like a singlehanded Enterprise etc does. Because of the shape of the boat and the narrow sheeting angle the crew can sit in the middle when tacking and only has a little sheet to pull through, compared to the enterprise which is a long hike for little legs from one side to the other. The 12s at Salcombe Week seem to consist almost entirely of dads and tiny kids. Until the tiny kids aren't tiny anymore and dad gets booted out
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Neal_g Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 2:58pm
Miracle is a good shout ian carries the weight centre sheeting 1 to 1 as per fireball room for 3 and 58kg hull weight
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Post Options Post Options   Quote patj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 20 at 8:35am
Iain C - I have a friend whose first experience of sailing was boyfriend's Fireball back in the seventies. They're still married and she now helms, though not a trapeze class.
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I'm 89 kg and sail an RS Feva with my kids since several years. They are (relatively) cheap and you never need to worry about damaging anything, especially during launching/going ashore singlehanded. Staying relaxed yourself is the most important point in sailing with small kids. They also offer a surprising amount of space for a 6'3'' dad and there is virtually no place where kids could hurt themselves due to the soft and rounded cockpit. The mainsheet with rear briddle helps dad moving forward enough to keep the transom out.

With a 4/5 year old a small jib is important, but with your weight you will be able to sail it singlehanded in any reasonable wind in case the kid does not want to contribute anymore.

When they get bored later on the kite will give some extra fun.

Some years on my kids now simply jump overboard when they get bored so it is still important to be able to handle the Feva singlehanded Smile

We retrofitted a mainsheet cleat as in the first Fevas which is nice  singlehanding with the kite up when conditions are too demanding to take a small kid out.



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Feva, 2000 and modern N12 are out, too expensive.  I'm looking to spend 750 maximum.  I'm also not worried about me being able to singlehand it...as I singlehand my RS700 and Bavaria 32 so most dinghies suitable for this dad/son purpose should be pretty easy, and besides I'd just be sailing the 700 anyway given the choice.

The N12 looks great, but I just think it might be a bit too "racy"...not in terms of performance, but I don't want to force the racing thing...I'd rather be able to get three of us in it, perhaps have the space for a small anchor/sandwich box, and have the ability to trundle over to Whitwell in in from Rutland SC, leave it on the pontoon and go and get an ice cream.  I do think something traditional and cruisey with the ability to race will fit the bill, and TBH it might just be a case of finding the best condition Miracle/Enterprise/Graduate/GP14 (with a small jib) I can find for the money.  I think I'm clearly going to have to be open to the idea of a well maintained woodie, which if Fireballs are anything to go by would be a stiffer, lighter, faster and more aesthetically appealing than a GRP boat (GRP not FRP obviously!) and be good value.

I suspect we'll only have this one for a couple of years, and then it will hopefully be an upgrade to an N12, RS200, Tasar, or perhaps even a '97 rules Cherub!
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There is a Crusader National 12 for sale on Apollo Duck for 825.  Would be ideal.
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My research into this always came back to the Laser 2000 Iain.... ticks most of the boxes, even if a little heavier to manhandle ashore solo.
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Originally posted by Iain C

....I suspect we'll only have this one for a couple of years, and then it will hopefully be an upgrade to an N12, RS200, Tasar, or perhaps even a '97 rules Cherub!
Lots of sensible suggestions here - but good you realise that you might want another Cherub again soon!
I met a 9 year old Eddie Bridle at the 2008 Cherub Nationals when he was crewing for his Dad and loving it. This year he came 5th/70 at the Moth Nationals.

We bought an RS Feva this year and love it. Whilst unlikely 750 they are good value and not necessarily too much more. 
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