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Originally posted by Cirrus

...And perhaps more interesting still - What was the 'easiest' to get on the pace with ?  (no - not just the easiest to simply sail ! )

for me that's easy.... a Laser 2 or Firefly.  Namely because in a 10 minute team race, the rules of attrition are limited. 
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Good question Cirrus, I can't say which but would suggest it has to be a hiking, unarig singlehander as anything with a trap, kite, sliding seat or more than one sail or crew adds complexity that requires more time on the water to coordinate. Adjustable rigs need learning and tweaky ones like Finns and OKs need a different skillset to the likes of the Laser. No FB sails, and no Olympic or super popular classes 'cos the higher average standard makes 'on the pace' harder to achieve. How are we doing so far?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote KazRob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Sep 20 at 10:40am
No boat is really simple to get on the pace with tho IMO. All the competitive 'slow' classes require a lot of skill, finesse and sometimes fitness to be able to squeeze that 0.1knt extra out of a boat that is going basically the same speed as everybody else. For faster boats, it may be easier to get up to max speed in a straight line but boat handling issues can very quickly erode lightning fast speed.

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One thing for sure, they're all difficult with a hangover.
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Originally posted by 423zero

One thing for sure, they're all difficult with a hangover.

No, I used to go better in a Laser with a hangover, probably cos my head hurt so much I couldn't overthink things and just sailed. Managed a 3rd at Laser inlands in one race with a stonking headache, as it cleared my results got worse
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A known tactic from uni days was to get the other teams utterly mullered the night before.... it was strangely easy until we ventured north of the wall and got hit by SUSA drinking teams.
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In terms of the trickier boats, I've sailed 18' Skiffs, 12' Skiffs, Cherubs, foiling Moths, low-rider Moths, MPS, and am currently getting up to speed with an RS700.

But I have to agree with the OP, the 300 is a wide, slippery, counter intuitive, monumentally physical pig of a thing which seems intent on hurting you in a number of ways at any opportunity.  It's great fun up to about 5 knots, and then it just wants to kill you.  I have no idea how a boat devoid of spinnakers, trapezes, racks or hydrofoils, that is essentially the same kind of boat as a Topper can be such an arse, but somehow RS has managed to pull it off.  The comedy feature when it turns turtle and the daggerboard immediately falls out is great, as is that feature where the kicker string jumps off that pulley thing by the mast and jams solid.  Perhaps I'd just borrowed some shedded boats, but I do have a real dislike of them!
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Originally posted by Iain C

and then it just wants to kill you.  I
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Originally posted by Iain C

In terms of the trickier boats, I've sailed 18' Skiffs, 12' Skiffs, Cherubs, foiling Moths, low-rider Moths, MPS, and am currently getting up to speed with an RS700.

But I have to agree with the OP, the 300 is a wide, slippery, counter intuitive, monumentally physical pig of a thing which seems intent on hurting you in a number of ways at any opportunity.  It's great fun up to about 5 knots, and then it just wants to kill you.  I have no idea how a boat devoid of spinnakers, trapezes, racks or hydrofoils, that is essentially the same kind of boat as a Topper can be such an arse, but somehow RS has managed to pull it off.  The comedy feature when it turns turtle and the daggerboard immediately falls out is great, as is that feature where the kicker string jumps off that pulley thing by the mast and jams solid.  Perhaps I'd just borrowed some shedded boats, but I do have a real dislike of them!

you forgot to mention the word 'skip'....


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