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    Posted: 03 Oct 20 at 7:59am
If you download the Garmin Virb software, you can overlay any track / gpx data with any video. You don't need a Virb. I've got a cheap Go Pro clone that does quite well. Nothing like the editorial / production quality of  Mozzie's videos though

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Bigger numbers is already on my list of enhancements. The text at the moment is the largest font available. I'm looking at drawing the text as images or lines. I wiill post an update on the facebook page when that is done. Strava is quite good for flybys, but not much good for any in depth analysis. There's another app http://gpsactionreplay.free.fr/ which is quite good but a bit clunky
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Originally posted by Mozzy

To be honest, garmin software, apps and website is awful.

I have rapidly reached that conclusion. But yes I do have GC on the iPhone, still struggling with it TBH it simply doesn't have some of the options you'd expect, or they are very well hidden.

They seem obsessed with Golf too which doesn't help, about 60% of the user guide talks about Golf and the rest is pretty useless. I think when I get to grips with it and, in particular RaceQs it'll do nicely, I only want it for sailing, cycling and walking so once I can get the units right (pace in mins/km for walking? WTF is that all about  Censored) and work out how to export track data to the Macbook I'll be fine.

TBH I bought it as a more convenient replacement for my very old Etrex handheld...


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Do you not have the garmin connect app on your phone? You can change metric to imperial under the user setting in there. 

Garmin express on the PC is a pile of crap. 

To be honest, garmin software, apps and website is awful. I only use it to get the info to strava via blue tooth. 


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I know the problem, I suffered an 'episode' back in the day when racing Raceboards, sudden fatigue and runaway heart rate that took about 18 hours to settle. The doc though it was down to dehydration and over exertion. It was bloody scary at the time.

Back on topic, I have bought a Vivoactive 3 and am finding the Garmin Connect app an absolute nightmare.... TBF I've been exclusively Apple for about 10 years and brief forays into Android have not been a succes. But a long web chat with Garmin support has proved fruitless trying to make the damn thing work as I would have expected. I can record 'activities' and store them in the cloud but they default to metric and changing them on the watch doesn't change them in the phone or web apps, there is not an app for Windows/OSX so you have to use 'Garmin Express' as an intermediary. Lots of other things that don't do what I expect to. I'm pretty good with tech but this is driving me up the wall  Censored

On the plus side it seems to work ok with RaceQs


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I use the Garmin data overlaid on video to give speed, heading and heart rate. Plan is to use it to work on my free pumping to get the right balance between vmg and cardiac arrest!
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Great video Mozzy! The shots, narrative etc all looks very professional.
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Originally posted by NeilB-Phantom

On a different subject has anyone used Strava for post session analysis, or is it too cycling specific to be useful?

I record quite a few of my sails on a garmin cycle computer. It syncs through the garmin app and goes up to strava (link to example). 

Mostly I am recording GPS so I can overlay that data to video later, so I can do a better job at telling the story of races on youtube (see below). POV and onboard shots are great at getting the in boat action, but can be very disorientating, so having an overlay with position on course, speed, heading and heart rate I think adds a little. 

Do I use strava for post sailing analysis? Well, not really. The interface is excellent, and it works so much better and easier than anything else. Within seconds I can see top speed, average speed, where we went on the course and heart rate. But that alone doesn't really give you anything to analyse in any meaningful way.

The sailracer and beat racing apps are trying to handle the GPS data in a more sailing relevant way. But, they're no where near as polished as strava.  

But, what it boils down to, and is still kind of true with the sailing specific apps, is that I don't think GPS alone is a great tool for sailing analysis. I can't say I've really learnt anything from it, after using it extensively. Camera's on the other hand I find invaluable. 

I am really liking the the trickle down load sensing technology of the likes of trusail (bespoke load sensors and high frequency GPS) and  cycolops (generic, micro and transferable load sensors) making it's way to dinghies. Dinghy sailing channel has a review coming up of Sailmon Max which uses gps and inclinometers. 

For me an ideal dinghy training computer would be
1) High frequency gps
2) TWA /AWA + wind speed
3) heel and pitch
4) bluetooth to load sensors
5) ping location
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Quatix 5 was "hidden" after Fenix 5, Quatix 6 was the only quatix with an individual entry.  Anyway successfully downloaded both versions, seem to work, have to try out properly next time I sail.  Was wondering if te fuigures could be bigger on the timer version as there is screen space or is that a platform limit?

On a different subject has anyone used Strava for post session analysis, or is it too cycling specific to be useful?
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