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Originally posted by Chris_H

I would be very cautious in suggesting that sailing has had a huge shot in the arm. 

Club  Sailing. not sailing in general :)


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As for changing rooms - I havenít missed them at all as I either get changed at home before and after or use a robe next to the boat. However, come the winter........ I donít sail in the winter anyway 😅

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I believe clubs need to be much more professional, much more with the commercials in mind. Sailors, in general, WILL pay more fees for a better service - I believe. Corinthian clubs will still be around, but few and far between - and rightly so.

I hope - and for the first time in a long time have hope - that this is poppycock.

Club's over reliance on the early-retirement generation from the 90's is well known, as is the fact that this bonanza of spare time cannot last forever and is coming to an end.

What COVID has done is force younger members to make things happen because all of the "doers" at the club have been heeding advice to stay away. These younger members have found out what it takes to run the club, and will i'm sure find a way to make it continue. This is because the vast majority of us prefer the proper "club" atmosphere of a volunteer run club warts and all.

Time will be an issue, but we can do meetings over Zoom. Maybe we will have to pay a groundsman again. But I don't see a coming age where all clubs will be managed clubs, and this is precisely because a generation of members have had to "grow up" as you put it :)
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Originally posted by Paramedic


Originally posted by Chris_H


I believe clubs need to be much more professional, much more with the commercials in mind. Sailors, in general, WILL pay more fees for a better service - I believe. Corinthian clubs will still be around, but few and far between - and rightly so.

I hope - and for the first time in a long time have hope - that this is poppycock.
Club's over reliance on the early-retirement generation from the 90's is well known, as is the fact that this bonanza of spare time cannot last forever and is coming to an end.
What COVID has done is force younger members to make things happen because all of the "doers" at the club have been heeding advice to stay away. These younger members have found out what it takes to run the club, and will i'm sure find a way to make it continue. This is because the vast majority of us prefer the proper "club" atmosphere of a volunteer run club warts and all.
Time will be an issue, but we can do meetings over Zoom. Maybe we will have to pay a groundsman again. But I don't see a coming age where all clubs will be managed clubs, and this is precisely because a generation of members have had to "grow up" as you put it :)


Hope is a good thing and I donít disagree with your hope. Reality I believe will be different.

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Sailing and sailing clubs will be around till the end of time. But moving with the changing times will see changes at all levels. Change is inevitable and should be welcomed and embraced. I do not see a place in the long term future for Corinthian type clubs. It doesnít exist in the Golfing world and wonít exist in the future sailing world. That may be sad, I agree, but inevitable

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I disagree, golfing requires a course to be laid out and maintained. Usually over a large area and at much expense. Competitive sailing only needs access to a piece of water, the means to place some marks and the means to start and to record finishing times. Sailing clubs becoming commercial organisations would IMHO, be a very bad thing for the sport.
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

I disagree, golfing requires a course to be laid out and maintained. Usually over a large area and at much expense. Competitive sailing only needs access to a piece of water, the means to place some marks and the means to start and to record finishing times. Sailing clubs becoming commercial organisations would IMHO, be a very bad thing for the sport.


Letís review this post in 10-15 yrs time (if this forum is still around which I highly doubt - it needs to be put out of its misery and backward thinking) 😉

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I think that the Corinthian do-it-yourself clubs have a better chance of survival provided they own their freeholds or have secure leases.  The clubs with expensive infrastructure, relying on bar take, catering and having a payroll will find things challenging and it will not be unclear which ones can survive COVID, time will tell, when next years subs are due in.

IMO the survival of clubs is slightly removed from dinghy racing, I suspect that keen racers will be adaptable on how they get to race and what facilities may be required.  During lockdown we were having quite satisfying racing with no more than a WhatsApp message, rabbit starts, windward leewards ... it shows that we might only need rudimentary facilities.
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Originally posted by Chris_H

It doesnít exist in the Golfing world

Which, I understand, was in deep **** before the pandemic with courses closing all over the place.
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Originally posted by Chris_H

It doesnít exist in the Golfing world

Which, I understand, was in deep **** before the pandemic with courses closing all over the place.


Which highlights the problem even more....
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