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The K1 is a lot narrower and lighter than a Stratos Keel (1.22m/2m and 105kg/290kg) so is going to be a radically different sailing experience. The K2 has an all up sailing weight if 155kg so it is probably half the all up weight of a Stratos Keel, it's also a fair bit narrower at 1.62m. They are much more performance orientated than the SK
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The K1 seems to be surprisingly competitive across a range of conditions/wind strengths.  The Stratos Keel needs F5 + to sail near its handicap.  Don't know about a K2.
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Thanks for all the suggestions, guys; they've given me some good pointers to think about. Somebody also suggested a K6 - another for me to investigate.

I could be quite tempted by a Flying 15. There is one at my club but it doesn't get sailed, and I've a feeling that at least part of the reason is the difficulty of launching and recovery up the slipway (there's no winch). And even a lifting keel will have enough weight to influence that. More cogitation required.



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We help a member pull his K1 up a short but steepish slipway at our Club fairly regularly. No more difficult than say a GP14.
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A long rope and a car helps with a FF.  Alternatively you could buddy up with the other one. Four people should have no problem launching and recovering a FF if the slipway is not stupidly long and steep.  That's what we used to do in Penzance without a winch.  They are lovely boats by the way but way heavier than a K1.
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If the trailer is reasonably well sorted and the slipway not steep two people can pull a FF out at a pinch, but 4 makes it easy.

Heavier than a K1 but faster and a bit more going on downwind with three sails. Fleets all over the place and a vibrant open circuit...
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We have at my club: K1, flying 15, tempest, k6 and sailability have a Venture with forward facing seats. The K1 is really a single hander though I know one pair who sail one together. K6 is a bit of a handful due to the huge kite, won't capsize but will broach and we've had a couple of expensive carbon mast breakages. Flying 15 looks like a lovely boat,but the tempest sailers say it's a dog ..I think they mean that it rewards vigorous hiking ( tho the FF owners at my club NEVER hike) Tempest needs a 15stone crew on a trapeze or that will broach merrily. Tempest and FF need s very deep slipway due the fixed keels. I reckon the K1 is a good boat for the single older sailor, maybe the venture for two up cruising.
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The FF is a lovely boat as well as a lovely looking one.  If you sail it properly like a dinghy (i.e. flat) it's a a really rewarding physical challenge in big breeze.  It is a mistake to view it as a retirement fleet for superannuated dinghy sailors!  I really noticed the difference when I tried out an Etchells recently which has much more of a yacht feel to it than the FF.
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