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Sam.Spoons
Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3398 |
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Topic: Dinghies with keels Posted: 25 Jul 20 at 6:42pm |
The K1 is a lot narrower and lighter than a Stratos Keel (1.22m/2m and 105kg/290kg) so is going to be a radically different sailing experience. The K2 has an all up sailing weight if 155kg so it is probably half the all up weight of a Stratos Keel, it's also a fair bit narrower at 1.62m. They are much more performance orientated than the SK
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NickM99
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jul 20 at 8:42pm |
The K1 seems to be surprisingly competitive across a range of conditions/wind strengths. The Stratos Keel needs F5 + to sail near its handicap. Don't know about a K2.
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Sheetpuller
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Aug 20 at 2:21pm |
Thanks for all the suggestions, guys; they've given me some good
pointers to think about. Somebody also suggested a K6 - another for me
to investigate.
I could be quite tempted by a Flying 15.
There is one at my club but it doesn't get sailed, and I've a feeling
that at least part of the reason is the difficulty of launching and
recovery up the slipway (there's no winch). And even a lifting keel
will have enough weight to influence that. More cogitation required. |
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The Moo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Aug 20 at 3:22pm |
We help a member pull his K1 up a short but steepish slipway at our Club fairly regularly. No more difficult than say a GP14.
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andy h
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Aug 20 at 9:56am |
A long rope and a car helps with a FF. Alternatively you could buddy up with the other one. Four people should have no problem launching and recovering a FF if the slipway is not stupidly long and steep. That's what we used to do in Penzance without a winch. They are lovely boats by the way but way heavier than a K1.
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Europe AUS53 & FF 3615
National 12 3344, Europe 397 and Mirror 53962 all gone with regret |
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ohFFsake
Far too distracted from work Joined: 04 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 219 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Aug 20 at 3:05pm |
If the trailer is reasonably well sorted and the slipway not steep two people can pull a FF out at a pinch, but 4 makes it easy.
Heavier than a K1 but faster and a bit more going on downwind with three sails. Fleets all over the place and a vibrant open circuit... |
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NickA
Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 783 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Aug 20 at 9:47pm |
We have at my club: K1, flying 15, tempest, k6 and sailability have a Venture with forward facing seats. The K1 is really a single hander though I know one pair who sail one together. K6 is a bit of a handful due to the huge kite, won't capsize but will broach and we've had a couple of expensive carbon mast breakages. Flying 15 looks like a lovely boat,but the tempest sailers say it's a dog ..I think they mean that it rewards vigorous hiking ( tho the FF owners at my club NEVER hike) Tempest needs a 15stone crew on a trapeze or that will broach merrily. Tempest and FF need s very deep slipway due the fixed keels. I reckon the K1 is a good boat for the single older sailor, maybe the venture for two up cruising.
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andy h
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Aug 20 at 10:06am |
The FF is a lovely boat as well as a lovely looking one. If you sail it properly like a dinghy (i.e. flat) it's a a really rewarding physical challenge in big breeze. It is a mistake to view it as a retirement fleet for superannuated dinghy sailors! I really noticed the difference when I tried out an Etchells recently which has much more of a yacht feel to it than the FF.
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Europe AUS53 & FF 3615
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