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Originally posted by dohertpk

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Originally posted by ian.r.mcdonald

Wake up on a wet and cold horrid day. Single hander? The option to pull up the duvet and stay dry. With a double hander you are committed. And often those miserable days are the best for sailing.

The move to single handers reduces overall numbers by several routes

Whatever happened to the good old fashioned route of crewing for some of the experienced sailors. Lost in the Squad setup?

100% agree.

My singlehander is a boat of convenience and if its iffy or I cant be bothered I don't go. I much prefer sailing a two man boat and im actually not that bothered which end though some boats require more effort than I want to put in at the front.

The trouble is in the current climate those of us who have several crews will probably not sail or give in to the boat of convenience only to find its easier as you dont spend half an hour on Thursday trying to sort someone out for the weekend. 

Im a bit worried about the future of two man classes and some "surviving" classes (Enterprise) I think could be in trouble.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Oinks Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jul 20 at 11:56pm
Dohertpk...thank you for for that response  Smile If it's going to work well then I'd say the big things are respect for each others strengths and weaknesses, and similar commitment. But if you're mates, even better. It's a tricky recipe but it ultimately depends on realistic aspirations. It's a tough call when you can just go and buy a singlehander. But sailing a 2-person boat, for me, is hugely more rewarding than sailing alone.
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For me it is down to crew availability. The Spice needs a fair bit of practice and experience to sail reasonably well so, while it's a great boat for blasting, it's not competitive in the handicap fleet. Especially inland where my more 'serious' racing takes place (actually with twin traps, a fairly big rig and huge kite it's completely unsuitable for our square mile lake). I have considered selling it and buying an Enterprise* but then a regular crew probably wants more to do to keep it interesting (and the reduced fun factor for blasting around in Holyhead Bay). So I have the Blaze as my main boat and the Spice for the occasional blast and open water race.

* I'd love a Merlin but it has nearly all the same crewing issues as the Spice and the cost of a decent plastic one is pretty steep. The other obvious candidate is a 400 but that feels like a bit of a cop out after the Spice. And either would still need a committed and competent crew to race competitively.
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A 400 is very tolerant of inexperienced crews, but it might not quicken your pulse after a Spice.  Personally I love the things and preferred crewing them to helming.  I used to run my Europe alongside my 400 sailing which was a good mix.  Eventually my helm sold the 400 to get an RS100 and I emigrated which sadly put an end to my fun.  Now that my son has dug his heels in and is refusing to crew for me (fair enough!) I'm at a crossroads between a s/h dinghy and 3 man keelboat sailing.  I wonder which way I'll jump?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote patj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jul 20 at 5:54am
The chat up line was basically: we've both got the same boats so if you're short of crew I'll crew for you and perhaps you could crew for me sometimes. Twenty years later we're still sailing together, living together and the two boats have bred and become about twenty two boats!




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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ozzytub Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jul 20 at 12:04pm
I Own a 2 man boat but never find a crew I like the interaction makes things more fun.

So I sail a single hander all the time.

Although I much prefer to be the crew not a helm. I think the best option if I can sort out would be to do open meetings two handed as a crew then I could just meet up at the event don't even need to be in the same county and club race single handed.
best of both worlds although as a helm crew combo may not be top of the fleet 
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