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Rupert
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Topic: Proper Course FAQs Posted: 02 Jul 20 at 7:55am |
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1996? I feel old now.
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Lukepiewalker
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jul 20 at 8:23pm | |
The thing with the old school pre-96 'luffing rights' was there was no room to keep clear, no obligation to avoid collision, so the luffing in question was far more aggresive a maneouver than we would recognise today. Hence to avoid people flashing back to those days, it is best to remove the word luffing from the scenario. Edited by Lukepiewalker - 17 Jul 20 at 8:26pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 20 at 11:00am | |
Maybe, maybe not... but you might just have a sport left. Rather than just a memory of water chess.
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 20 at 11:35am | |
In the end you have a pastime left using collision regulations if you take away the interaction between boats. Or just a time trial. Out thinking a competitor has always been part of sailing boat racing, and to do that you need a set of rules which allows interplay between boats when they meet. |
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 20 at 12:14pm | |
Boats will meet on the legs, just keep the marks neutral zones, not saying all races, would be better for timid or new racers.
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NickM99
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Marks are neutral zones? Like those mixed pedestrian and car zones in Holland? Maybe you can do it like they do at crossroads in the USA: the car that arrives first has priority. Oh, hang on....
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 20 at 5:02pm | |
Neutral zone re previous pages explanation, if you haven't got past before the zone, bad luck, marks must be passed in line astern, slower boats can allow faster boats through if they wish, similar to Golf where you allow faster players to go through.
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 20 at 7:05pm | |
I'm not sure how it would work in practice, especially with three or four boats overlapped approaching the zone. Quite a challenge to get into line astern. I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out how it could work. Perhaps some examples. How about, for instance:
1 - Boat on port, Boat on starboard both on lay line, enter the zone near enough together as best can be judged. 2 - Boat on port approaches line of boats on starboard that have overstood so she could tack under them and make the mark 3 - Three boats overlapped approaching the zone. Edited by JimC - 20 Jul 20 at 7:11pm |
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 20 at 7:20pm | |
Forget port and starboard, boat with Mark to its side is first around the mark, ie if mark is to starboard boats in line abreast, boat with Mark to starboard is first around the mark, boat to port of him second etc.
Faster boats can attempt to overtake wide, but must be outside the zone. Edited by 423zero - 21 Jul 20 at 6:06am |
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