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If going for a cat, the Spark/Dart 15/Sprint could work or even the Dart 18 if the 15 won't take a big crew.
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There are a number of catamaran options which could fit the bill, eg Dart 16, cheap, bulletproof and a good weight carrier, but easy to single-hand & trapeze if you want.
But first you'd need to decide if cat sailing is for you. I love them, but some people seem to think they are a lesser form of sailing. 
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I think in my experience its only catamaran sailors who have this thing about it being a lesser form of sailing. On line dinghy sailors are usually far too busy putting down rotomoulds to criticize multihulls...

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Originally posted by JimC

I think in my experience its only catamaran sailors who have this thing about it being a lesser form of sailing.

With good reason, if that is actually the case. Given the history. (5min 20sec)

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Hi, OP, Iím in exactly the same boat (ahem). I have a Dart 18 in Anglesey but every club I go to within an hour of where I am based wont take it. Therefore Iím weighing up the Vago /Buzz question. I also will be taking a light weight crew with me every now and again. I also like a trapeze boat, for whatever reason. The Vago and Buzz seem to take a literal and verbal hammering. I used to sail a 470 which I loved but as a helm and didnít solo. A friend who sailed pretty much all types to a high standard recommended a Laser / V 3000. Any thoughts? Would love to spend more but canít justify it, so £1500 budget. Cheers
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I have a Spice which has too much sail to be comfortable solo in much more than F2 so pretty limited to when I can sail it on my own (which is partly why I have the Blaze), the Buzz will be better in that respect but is a pretty sturdy beast off the water. The L3k is lighter, has a more manageable rig and is probably a better boat for sailing singlehanded but is a bit small for two big-ish guys (so is the Buzz but it's wider higher volume hull is probably a better weight carrier).
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Loved crewing the Buzz in the mid/late 90s.

Hard work compared to the other boats I was sailing at the time,, and the boat a bit tea tray like, but the extra weight didn't seem to affect the fun we had.
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I love the Spice, it's a twin trapeze boat a 'normal' sailor can sail (it shares the Buzz hull but with a slightly different deck moulding and roughly 50% more rag). Its great fun but without a regular partnership pretty much impossible to sail to it's handicap.

The Vago doesn't seem to get much love but it's a poly boat and IME they are never as nice to sail as a similar GRP boat. 


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Interestingly I approached a 110 acre lake S.C. the other day and asked about membership. First chap I spoke to was very ďweíre a serious racing club, no point joining if youíre not going to race, has to be a fleet boat etc...Ē. I mentioned I was an RYA Dinghy Instructor / Powerboat Instructor and used to be a moderately good racer, and had a cat. End of that conversation. Someone else was much more amiable and said it was a PY issue. I went back to him a couple of days ago and mentioned Iíd found a Dart 15 (no PY issue and shorter than many boats there and would be willing to let club members use it, to try. The response was the club doesnít like ďcatsĒ. So I get issues of size and to a point PY, but a 110 lake seems adequately large. I also understand that fleet racing is important. However I donít have £3000 or so to splash (ahem) on a fleet boat that doesnít really meet my needs. There a heck of a lot of different boats at the club, even a cruiser. Is there a general feeling that cats arenít liked on inland waters (understand the owning water companies have certain rules etc), or do I sound like a whingeing did? As a club Iíd hope to encourage people onto the water, especially those keen to help and bringing younger people into sailing. The club even has a cruising section! Maybe I should have just had a shower that morning. So if anyone knows of a club in the midlands area that takes small catamarans (14-16 feet), Iíd be very grateful for any help. Cheers.
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