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Originally posted by mongrel

I think there needs to be a bit more realism about where dinghy racing sits within the hierarchy of ďthings to return to normalĒ]


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Originally posted by sargesail

Originally posted by mongrel

I think there needs to be a bit more realism about where dinghy racing sits within the hierarchy of ďthings to return to normalĒ. 
By all means go for a sail with a few other boats, but I donít think the preparations are ready for towing boats around the country for organised racing. 
Expecting locals who may have lost their jobs / not seen their families / missed medical operations/hospital treatments, etc. to be grateful that youíre visiting their area is very unrealistic (in my opinion).

And that there the preparations ARE in place for towing boats around the country for organised racing.
I think the fact the events are being cancelled show that preparations ARENíT as extensive as people would like.
Most nationals/worlds Iíve been to are reliant on local volunteers giving up their time to run the events.  Itís highly likely that these local volunteers arenít comfortable with potentially having to assist in a rescue, or removing boats and trollies off beaches, and generally get close to other people who may be asymptotic.

Originally posted by sargesail

think itís entirely reasonable though to expect them not to object to activity within the law, the guidance and the specialist guidance of DCMS and the RYA.....
Thatís your view, but I can tell you that the people Iíve spoken to where I live, and on local social media groups donít want visitors down yet.  The locals who would help run events know this, that may be another reason why events are being cancelled as the clubs donít want any grief.

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The people I know in Cornwall who arent in the tourism sector quite frankly want all the grockles to sling their hook - the NHS just isn't geared-up down there to deal with an influx or a Covid spike from visitors.

That said, my inlaws are merrily on their way down in a couple of weeks - oblivious to these reasonable warnings.  Ironically, they struggled to get accommodation too.... unsurprising given the number of morons who would listen to Esther McVey....



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Local social media groups Ermm. The bastion of intelligent thought. You certainly won't get irrational fear of outsiders in these places. 
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Originally posted by Mozzy

Local social media groups Ermm. The bastion of intelligent thought. You certainly won't get irrational fear of outsiders in these places. 
Iím not saying itís right or not, (certainly no more than quoting Radio Exe as an authority on pandemic statistics), Iím trying to give my experience of how people in Cornwall feel about visitors at the moment, and why this may have an effect on whether folk want to volunteer to hold events for visiting sailors.


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Radio Exe was reporting government statistics, which you see on the government website. I quoted it, as funnily enough it's mostly local news that reports on local trends. 

I think there is a league of difference between that and the muddled thinking I see in local facebook groups. 
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Originally posted by Mozzy

I think there is a league of difference between that and the muddled thinking I see in local facebook groups. 
Youíre right there, but I think most rational people are able to determine whoís chatting sh*te, and who arenít.
Though on this subject, whether locals are happy to see the tourists down or not, itís pretty straight forward and unambiguous.
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I presume that none of us would criticise a fellow Class member for making the personal decision to not attend a major event due to Covid concerns?

So why is it that individuals (or collectively, Clubs) are seemingly being criticised for doing the same?  Sure - it's a shame that these Champs have been cancelled, but really.... we only go to these venues at their invitation as guests, so if for whatever reason they decide that in the current situation they don't feel that it's appropriate to host, then that decision (that may directly affect the Club finances, so hasn't been taken lightly) should be respected.

2nd guessing these decisions, that will have been pondered over for literally hours by Ctte's, and critiquing them on public chat boards just smacks of entitlement IMHO.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mongrel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Aug 20 at 3:38pm
Originally posted by Bootscooter

I presume that none of us would criticise a fellow Class member for making the personal decision to not attend a major event due to Covid concerns?

So why is it that individuals (or collectively, Clubs) are seemingly being criticised for doing the same?  Sure - it's a shame that these Champs have been cancelled, but really.... we only go to these venues at their invitation as guests, so if for whatever reason they decide that in the current situation they don't feel that it's appropriate to host, then that decision (that may directly affect the Club finances, so hasn't been taken lightly) should be respected.

2nd guessing these decisions, that will have been pondered over for literally hours by Ctte's, and critiquing them on public chat boards just smacks of entitlement IMHO.
Exactly, the clubs donít want to cancel champs, opens, etc., often these events are what sustain small coastal clubs financially.  
But between upsetting their neighbours, and struggling to find volunteers, its so difficult for clubs to get back to normal.
Personally I wouldnít feel comfortable about staying away as a paying guest at the moment, youíre putting a lot of faith in the property cleanerí skills, and the previous occupants honesty/hygiene.
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I would expect any club committee to put the concerns, and health, of their members at the top of considerations about going ahead with an open meeeting under current circumstances. And putting on a Nationals or Open takes a lot of input from local members volunteering to help with onshore marshalling, food, drink, safety and committtee boats. All of those are likely to potentially be exposed to visitors, many from areas where infection rates may be much higher.

It may well be the case that the potential level of risk is over estimated by many, but that is in many ways irrelevant. If those are the concerns of the committee and members then there is no way a club could sensibly go ahead. And whatever the underlying truth turns out to be there have been indications of rising infection rates in Devon, and the SW, which is no surprise to anyone living here if you look at recent traffic flows on the A38. And it would be more surprising if the influx from more infected areas did not lead to a local rise in infections rather than the other way round.

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