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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Apr 20 at 5:16pm
Re insurance, there's this on RYA https://www.rya.org.uk/newsevents/news/Pages/bsm-lockdown-insurance-update.aspx
https://www.rya.org.uk/newsevents/news/Pages/coronavirus-advice-and-information-for-recreational-boaters.aspx

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Post Options Post Options   Quote ColPrice2002 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Apr 20 at 7:33pm
For my lake, principal cause of rescue is "mast stuck in mud".

Solution - masthead floats...

Alternatively, walk/swim ashore and recover dinghy later...

We need to amend the SIs - 2m separation between dinghies - you don't hail, just cough loudly!

Possibly timed starts:- each dinghy starts 1 minute after another, then lap timed...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Neptune Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Apr 20 at 10:41pm
Why 2 m separation between dinghies? Most are two metres wide or there abouts, so long as you are not crashing into each other then you’ll be 2m apart or more
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 20 at 7:20am
Rare for a small single hander to be 2m wide.

I can think of quite a few scenarios where helms are going to be closer than that, but all of them seem fleeting compared to shopping for eggs, bread and flour.

For those sailing on handicap, pursuit races do seem to be the answer, though to begin with I think just going sailing away from pinch points like start lines and Marks, is more like on land social distancing. Especially if using the "exercise" excuse for a sailing fix

On shore contact still seems the most likely to pass infection.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Paramedic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 20 at 7:21am
Separation between boats is not a problem, you won't get anywhere near as close to someone else as you do in a shop or in the street or park even under current restrictions. It's for fleeting seconds and outdoors the risk of infection is shown to be minimal.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 20 at 7:49am
I'd agree with that - safety boat and committee boat excluded, I can't see the real infection risk when actually out sailing, windsurfing, paddling etc.  As Rupert says, social distancing on shore as per any other sports club will be the critical zone for assessment.  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mozzy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 20 at 8:25am
Yeah the club grounds ashore act as a bit of funnel that each sailor passes through on their way to the water where they again disperse. 
I think that's the biggest problem with organised sailing, is that it would create peaks in use. If you have a 11 am start, everyone arrive at 10, rigs in the dinghy park til 10.30, in the changing rooms from 1030 to 1045 (if open) and on the launch slip together after that. 

I think it will be difficult to have organised racing like that until outdoor gatherings of 50+ people are allowed. There's certainly some steps clubs could take to mange this situation, akin to those being taken in retail now. But, there would definitely need to be a relaxation of the lock-down regulations would that would dictate to a large extent the precise measures required. But i don't see the actual racing format itself having to change. 

But, free sailing, where people turn up when they fancy could be manageable fairly early on (possibly even now if the MCA / Harbour Master changed their tune). And you maybe do a gate start with a couple of boats who are on the water at the same time would be the next logical step. 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 20 at 9:31am
A question, does anyone know, how long the virus is active in the asymptomatic?

I mean assuming we're not asymptomatic and we've all been obeying the lock down rules, the risk of us coming together has to be a lot less than a visit to the supermarket where we'd be mixing with folk who haven't necessarily locked down due to being a care worker (now very high risk) or other key worker.

Building sites are opening up on May 11th I gather, folk I know are being called back to work.

Changing rooms can be avoided outbound by getting into your kit at home, which I do quite often in the winter.

Most of our boats are around 4 mtr fore & aft and with approaching 2 mtr width doesn't exactly bring us into close contact with each other.

So the boat park might have to be managed and the other club environs, even so I don't see it as high risk at all.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote seasailor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 20 at 9:54am
Personally, I can't see sailing at my club starting anytime soon.

I wouldn't bother going if I had to get changed in the car (which would be parked out on the public highway) or drive home in a wet wetsuit.

Nor would I bother if I couldn't socialise in the club afterwards.

I suspect enough members would be of a similar view to mean it would not be worth trying to organise anything.

That and the fact that it takes at least 6 people to launch and retrieve the safety boat in any kind of a breeze/sea and you can't do it while all being 2m apart, pretty much rules it out for the time being.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mozzy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 20 at 9:58am
Coronavirus: Sport should start again 'from bottom up not top down'
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