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Sam.Spoons
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Topic: Hybrid ! Posted: 01 Apr 20 at 10:36pm |
TBF the 2020 PY number were released at the Dinghy show as usual.....
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Apr 20 at 12:33am |
Shhh
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Robert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Apr 20 at 6:15am |
Well done Cirrus and GRF for actually doing some development! I like the look of both :)
The toe straps look a long way away?
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Apr 20 at 6:46am |
2021 changes are the ones which might not happen if not enough racing takes place. |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Cirrus
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Apr 20 at 8:50am |
..... and (if) I was willing to be on my knees downwind then it looks great ... One of the ideas considered but not tried on this 'Hybrid' was to recognise that many don't use decent knee pads. So if ever a production version was on the cards, in some distant future, I would look at having the floor with sectioned recesses to inset high(ish) density foam. The areas would need to be fairly large - but at this stage it is simply not necessary and would be an extra complication. Would be nice to be able to wear a shortie wetsuit in Summer and no knee pads ? Yes I know ! PN ? Not of interest any more – given previous experience with that rat’s nest ...best I don’t comment too much. I’m maybe not as conspiracy suspicious as say GRF but some of the ‘experimental’ numbers produced way back could have done with some ‘full workings shown’ to increase confidence at the time. Far far too early to do more than speculate anyway .... Edited by Cirrus - 02 Apr 20 at 9:06am |
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davidyacht
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Apr 20 at 8:56am |
One of the advantages of the Solo is that the inside of the tanks are sufficiently close to the centreline that you can still perch on them while sailing downwind ... probably won’t work in this case but worth a thought.
Quite a sweet looking boat, would be in there with the Hadron if I was considering Handicap racing every weekend.
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Apr 20 at 9:03am |
Off the boom sheeting?
What about something like a spoiler across the back, perch on there when running? |
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turnturtle
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Apr 20 at 9:25am |
If I'd seen this yesterday before 12 I would have posted you need to add a kite to it....
It's a lovely hull form Mike, hope you have fun with it at some point soon.
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ttc546
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Apr 20 at 11:03am |
Its a nice looking, and clean layout of a boat.
Not sure about the yellow take-up lines running down the side decks. Arnt you gonna be sitting on them and wont that be uncomfortable? Also, it looks, as already suggested, the toes straps are too inboard. Looks good though :-)
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Cirrus
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Apr 20 at 4:08pm |
Not sure about the yellow take-up lines running down the side
decks. Arnt you gonna be sitting on them and wont that be uncomfortable? Also, it looks, as already suggested, the toes straps are too inboard.... All easily changed ... but it suits (me) for now. Regarding comfort I wear hikers anyway and yellow shock-cord is what I've got available here. Just wanted the most simple fly-aways for now. The prime point of 'Hybrid' is/was to see what works in terms of the hull form and rig(s). The hull is very easily driven but not too 'tricky' at all and this general form and rocker in other boats has proven very very slippery. It also 'should' be good for 'heavies' but we would really have to establish the effective crew weight ranges on the water. The spars could carry less sail area or go all the way up to about 11.5m (but I do not think that would be needed at the moment). Toestraps - easy to change, modify, alter to suit crew sizes and preffered sailing style - and not something I'd ever propose restricting. I've not mentioned hull weight yet .. it is lightish and is between 55-60kg with centreboard in place. If it goes much further then 45-50kg would/could be the target in epoxy. You could go lower of course but I'd be then start to get concerned about practicality /durability etc.. Maybe the forumites and 'powers that be amongst them' could run a 'specials' meeting (when circumstances permit of course) for a few or many of us to try out new ideas and 'odd craft' thrown together during this odd time in history. Building / modifying craft without rules for a change is good fun occasionally and quite liberating as wel as educational. It could get the minds of the many working on 'Hybrids' instead of thinking all the time about the bl**dy virus !!
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