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Of the three guys I know who have built Aussie Lasers, one is a very keen sailor who is still in the industry and the other two are qualified tradesman boatbuilders who have won nationals in non-SMOD classes.  So they don't have to be built poorly or by unskilled staff.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 20 at 7:12am
It is obviously low tech, by modern standards, build as this shows 

And this is a marketing video so shows the process at its best. Imagine the glass content is pretty identical for all boats. Resin content must vary with a hand layup and bonding paste all looks a bit slap dash. This could be controlled but at a cost. Then it comes down to tooling / jigging to ensure mast tube, board case etc all spot on. 

Interesting to see what happens. 


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"Each hull and deck is weighed to ensure a perfect match." Light hulls get teamed up with heavy decks and visa versa but which is best? I suppose TBF it's just fine tuning but who knows what the tolerances are.....
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I think getting one with the ‘right ‘ mast rake is the key 
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Originally posted by zeon

I think getting one with the ‘right ‘ mast rake is the key 

I imagine back in the beginning and in the manual they put quite a wide tolerance on it but never tested what boats sail like on top and bottom limit. Clearly somewhere within the limits there is a ideal measurement. A shrewd builder could figure out the best dimensions, invest in jigs and produce a better boat that was 100% class legal.  

I can’t see Ovingtons throwing them together, I figure they will build the very best boat they can that meets the rules and makes a profit. 
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List of builders currently going through the approvals process (if anyone is that bothered):

Devoti Sailing s.r.o. (Poland)
Element 6 Evolution Co Ltd  (Thailand)
Nautivela srl (Italy)
Ovington Boats Ltd (United Kingdom)
Qindao Zou Inter Marine Co., Ltd (China)
Rio tecna srl (Argentina)
Zim Sailing (United States)
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Originally posted by JimC

There's a pretty strict construction manual and I believe they are hoping to tighten that up further, so the strong intention is that no-one will be allowed to build a better boat.

Has anyone bothered to tell the Aussie builder?

The Aussie hulls have been recognised for years as superior.
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Originally posted by L192444

Originally posted by JimC

There's a pretty strict construction manual and I believe they are hoping to tighten that up further, so the strong intention is that no-one will be allowed to build a better boat.

Has anyone bothered to tell the Aussie builder?

The Aussie hulls have been recognised for years as superior.

Isn't one of the causes of all this that LPE weren't working to the manual/and-or would not allow an inspection so someone could verify if they were, having been put upon enquiry. 

Certainly one of the guys at our club bought a new one for his lad who sails the 4.7 circuit, and when boats there were compared they were all over the shop, in terms of rake and even (IIR) lower mast section pre-bend.

So as to JimC's better boat, is that better than the next one or better than the shoddy efforts Laser sailors have been saddled with historically? I can't imagine Devoti, Nautivela or Ovi (don't know the others on Jeffers' list but I suspect RS would counsel against a Thai builder given recent experience) compromising themselves and building down to past dodgy standards. 


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Or to within the letter of the manual what is the absolute best Laser you can build. 
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Originally posted by tink

Or to within the letter of the manual what is the absolute best Laser you can build. 

IMO that's the problem with a 'build manual' or 'specification' versus one or two centrally controlled factories under one badge/organisation ... This kind of guide is exactly that, a guide, it's not an absolute and is only as good a measurement and tolerance guide as its enforcement. The reality of an open market with choices for buyers is to incentivise the builders to look for advantage; you get a reputation for making 'the best' of something and you get the lion's share of the orders, and that counts for development classes and ODs, for example (respectively) Ovi's successful i14's and FF's.

One of the off-putting aspects of the L*ser long term has been this inconsistency and boatpark myth stuff, it was marketed like a SMOD but built a lot like a restricted OD class.


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