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By The Lee
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Topic: Ovington Laser Posted: 30 Mar 20 at 4:44pm |
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At a recent 4.7 euros there were so many LPE 4.7 bottom section that failed measurement that they were allowed to race otherwise there would be no one to race!
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CT249
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Mar 20 at 9:16pm | |
The funny thing is I don't know anyone close to the front of the Laser class who believes the stories about significantly faster superboats. Certainly when I checked the results, there was NO apparent evidence for Australians (who obviously have access to Aussie boats) to do better in the world titles that allowed people to bring their own boats, than in supplied-boat events like most worlds and the Olympics.
It's a bit like the claims that you need a new sail for every regatta, when in fact people like multiple world Masters champs say specifically that you do NOT - Mark Bethwaite, a wealthy man who can get what he wants, used the same sail to win three world titles.
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CT249
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Mar 20 at 9:28pm | |
The Laser may have been built like that in some places, but it certainly did not have to be built like that. Certainly they are incomparably closer than the restricted OD class I have had most to do with, which is the FF and in which there are significantly different hull shapes, vastly different construction methods, etc. My 30 year old Laser appears to be completely competitive with ex-Olympians on new boats, as were the brand new boats my brother and I pulled off racks when we were young and top 10 nationally, whereas to use another class you mentioned my less than 30 year old FF was completely uncompetitive in many conditions (despite being #1 Classic at the nationals and able to score 2nd and 4th overall in light winds). Compared to my other SMOD hulls, also from single local factories such as the Tasar, Windsurfer and J/24, the Laser has been vastly more successful at maintaining class uniformity and competitiveness.
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zeon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Mar 20 at 10:42pm | |
It might be like that in Australia. It’s not like that over here. I’ve owned two lasers in my life , a 1978 one which I owned for nearly twenty years and 1999 boat . Both were good fast durable boats both built before LPE took control of manufacturing lasers. If boat park talk ,in every club a have been to in the last decade, has any credence . There is no way I would ever buy a laser build by LPE in the last decade if I want a durable fault free boat. 😔
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jeffers
Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 20 at 5:52am | |
I had a good friend who went to the 4.7 worlds a couple of years ago, supplied kit and 90% of the lower sections would not measure. They ended up having to fudge it to allow the event to take place.
The big advantage for Devoti over the others is space, they have a massive facility in Poland (a former WW2 submarine base).
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Paul
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CT249
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 20 at 9:25am | |
Sounds like we're 100% in agreement that poor quality is a possible problem with the class, but not a definite problem as some are implying. |
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jeffers
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 20 at 10:33am | |
I know of several people who have had major issues with brand new boats from LPE. Stuff you can see not just stuff like mast rake (stress cracks etc.. that were clearly visible at collection time).
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Paul
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epicfail
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 20 at 6:14pm | |
How many people are likely to want a new Laser?
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tink
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 20 at 6:35pm | |
I presume that over the past 50 years we have gained about 5kg. Someone in the 75 to 80kg range kind of falls between the big and small rig of the Aero and D-Zero so Laser a better choice. There are plenty of Lasers out there so economic to get a competitive boat and eventually people upgrade, if you have sailed something for years you’re likely to stay in the same class, go up the chain and people buy new boats. Back to the build quality this is the mast foot |
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Tink
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Riv
Far too distracted from work Joined: 23 Nov 13 Location: South Devon Online Status: Offline Posts: 353 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 20 at 8:12pm | |
Wow, that is a lot of tolerance in the fit between the mast pot and the step. I assume it was designed like that initially to make it really easy to fit the deck and hull together. Maybe some hull and deck moulds needed this much tolerance to fit because they were built to a wide tolerance in the first place. There now is absolutely no need for this much tolerance. If they are all like this then I'm not suprised mast rake is a problem. It's a shame old Lasers don't get sawn up much as this would have been sorted out years ago.
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