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    Posted: 27 Mar 20 at 10:56am
Y&Y asked Andy Rice to give a top list of what amounts to Pro sailors from across the globe.
What about the best amateurs who do we think should be included. What is our definition of Amateur? someone who does not earn a living from sailing in any form or should the sail makers like Andy Davis or Charlie Cumbley be allowed as they don't sail full time?
Number one nomination from me.
Nick Craig multiple world champion and National champion across a wide range of boats.Including different style of boats OK to B14. 




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To me, amateur means someone who can't justify sailing as part of the job, so sailmakers and builders are out.

Anyone to whom sailing is a hobby/escape from the real world of jobs, mortgages etc
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Originally posted by Gordon 1430

Y&Y asked Andy Rice to give a top list of what amounts to Pro sailors from across the globe.
What about the best amateurs who do we think should be included. What is our definition of Amateur? someone who does not earn a living from sailing in any form or should the sail makers like Andy Davis or Charlie Cumbley be allowed as they don't sail full time?
Number one nomination from me.
Nick Craig multiple world champion and National champion across a wide range of boats.Including different style of boats OK to B14. 


I think sailmakers should be included. Motivating yourself to race after a full week cutting cloth must be tough.

Jim Hunt!   Not enough space for his wins but Solo,Ok,Fireball etc etc
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Clearly the answer is two top Frensham sailors, Nick Craig, as nominated above and Roger Gilbert.

For me, if you work in the industry, you're not an amateur I'm afraid
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Past and present?

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At least we don't have to worry about including sailing instructors. We forget how to sail fast as soon as we have to start thinking about how we do the basics.
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Anyone who sails and does their duty
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Originally posted by 423zero

Anyone who sails and does their duty


An increasingly rare person, I agree completely!
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Originally posted by Rupert

At least we don't have to worry about including sailing instructors. We forget how to sail fast as soon as we have to start thinking about how we do the basics.


When I was instructing for london borough of Redbridge ( last century)
We used to have a race against the Essex county instructors. Included in the list for Essex was Lawrence Crispin and David Campbell James.

We always lost!
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I wonder how much teaching they did compared to racing!
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