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epicfail
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Topic: Downwind Instability = Swim Posted: 03 Feb 20 at 6:55pm |
Hi Gareth, I'm in North Hampshire - so Weymouth is not too far away, the training day sounds rather interesting. Is there somewhere I can find more details? I'm a pond sailor I have no idea what to do with anything resembling a wave - unless it's from the rescue boat.. |
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GarethT
Really should get out more Joined: 21 Apr 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 714 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Feb 20 at 7:12pm |
There's a fair few of us in your neck of the woods; Chichester Harbour, Stokes Bay, Lee on the Solent, Weston and New Forest.
There are a few of us doing the Chichester Snowflake if you fancy joining us (although this weekend looks a bit crazy!) UK Europe Sailing Facebook There is also a website, but most of the interaction is on Facebook. www.ukeuropclass.com Edited by GarethT - 03 Feb 20 at 7:21pm |
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H2
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Feb 20 at 10:27am |
Might do - been quite fun having Nick Craig in the class over the winter!
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H2 #115 (sold)
H2 145 OK 2082 |
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Sam.Spoons
Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3398 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Feb 20 at 10:28am |
I'll bet it has
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
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davidyacht
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Feb 20 at 11:15am |
I have seldom sailed such a stable and forgiving singlehander as the H2 downwind; on the day that I raced the demo boat it was seriously windy and even after going "down the mine" the bow popped up. And she was dead stable on a deep planing run. Like Keith's Merlin designs, of which I sailed one in my youth, I suspect that the H2 might be less forgiving when allowed to rail on her chines. The large flat top main may be an issue, but stays don't stop the Solo from sailing by the lee, albeit not as extreme as the non-stayed classes, but it is still fast, and I would suggest sailing deep on the run allows you to pick your gybing moment almost anywhere in the downwind leg, whereas a reach to reach gybe commits you to gybing at a specific point.
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Happily living in the past
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 20 at 7:02am |
Well you should be able to try Europe this weekend, forecast is good for extreme running.
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Robert
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 20 at 9:33am |
FTFY
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 20 at 9:57am |
80mph, should be a good display, get it on video.
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Robert
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DiscoBall
Far too distracted from work Joined: 03 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 305 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Feb 20 at 7:53pm |
Don't be too hard on yourself then - with its Moth heritage the Europe is a bit more twitchy/responsive (depending on your taste) than many other singlehanders, but that's it charm. One thing I'm not sure was mentioned above was to check the range of movement of your kicker as maybe it can go off too far? A very rough rule of thumb is to put your elbow on the top of the transom, then the furthest the boom should go up is the end of your outstretched fingers. If it can go up further then that may not be helping.
Worth a look at Lars' youtube channel - not that relevant to pond sailing but it's definitely how you sail a Europe well. Edited by DiscoBall - 10 Feb 20 at 7:56pm |
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Feb 20 at 10:12pm |
I've only had one relatively brief sail in a very old and tired Europe, on the sea and in a good F4-5 breeze* but would not describe it as twitchy compared to other boats, no more so than a Laser anyway.
* Fabulous little boat, loved it, if I was a little bendier and 5-10kg lighter it would definitely be on my shortlist.
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
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