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Brass
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Topic: Under 18's declarations for Club racing Posted: 16 Jan 20 at 9:45am |
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In the absence of a parent or guardian, who might the 'loco parentis' on site be? What criteria do you use to identify the 'in loco parentis' person in the absence of parents or guardians? Can you give some examples?
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 20 at 9:49am | |
Rule 4 is actually a pretty weak reed to protect you from litigation. If you get some ambulance-chaser or champion of victimhood coming after you, nothing can stop them suing you, but the RYA insurance for qualified Race Officials will give pretty good protection as to outcomes. Always provided you do a diligent, conscientious job in the first place.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 20 at 9:52am | |
No, what I am saying is if the OOD is placed with the responsibility of judging competitors suitability then the OOD could get it wrong and let someone sail who shouldn't have, and it ends in tragedy. Then he is culpable. That doesn't stop the OOD, or more likely fellow competitors having a chat with your struggling sailor(or parent), along the lines of, looking lively today, you going to be OK, would you like to crew for someone else?
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piglet
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 20 at 10:02am | |
Loco Parentis- appointed adult to act in parents absence? When I was dragging the kids round the Topper and Kent schools circuit there were actually Loco Parentis forms to sign. At the club it's a bit less formal, one parent asks another to keep a weather eye while they nip up the shops etc. In our case Loco Parentis is not a designated club official, even during junior training we insist on parents et al being on site.
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 20 at 10:07am | |
Mate, in among your other helpful and sensible advice, you are throwing around some 'trigger words' in a publicly accessible forum that could well be prejudicial to some conscientious capable race officer who gets sued in the future, or at least deter some people from participating in race management. Sure RO's and other race officials have 'responsibilites' and 'duties' but lets just leave it at that. BTW, thanks for the 'loco parentis' stuff.
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piglet
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 20 at 10:11am | |
My apologies, I stand down, scratch what I said.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 20 at 10:24am | |
Please don't Piglet. This isn't a legal chambers, it's a sailing forum. Chat and opinion is allowed.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 20 at 11:06am | |
Good thread so far.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 20 at 12:34pm | |
Why? What does that achieve? Genuinely want to understand the perspective? What’s a Junior? |
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 20 at 1:10pm | |
Pretty good questions. OK, a parent on site can be held to have consented/agreed/approved of a junior sailor going afloat to compete in a race, and thus might be amenable to rule 4. I think this argument could run into trouble once the sailor begins racing and conditions or circumstances change: How can a parent on the shore be 'responsible' for the decision to 'continue racing' on the water? What's a Junior needs thinking about. There's obviously all the difference in the world between a 16 year old National Squad member who may be qualified as an Instructor, and a 9 year old at the bottom of Opti Silver Fleet.
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