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Brass
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Topic: Simple Rule Question Posted: 07 Jan 20 at 12:13pm |
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<g>. No problem with a hail of 'water'. Case 54 Answer 4
These requirements for hailing apply equally to B if she responds ‘You tack’. |
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jan 20 at 12:47pm | |
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jan 20 at 1:05pm | |
Thanks gents I had just about reached that conclusion.
Blaze, faster but less close winded than a Laser? In F2 there's not much in it TBH. I would definitely have stayed out of the Lasers way if I hadn't beed defending against another Blaze and trying to catch yet another.....
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jan 20 at 1:36pm | |
The other conclusion is that middle was correct in hailing protest when contact occurred, but it was leeward who needed to take a penalty. Of course if Leeward were telling the tale I expect it would all look different!
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jan 20 at 4:53pm | |
That begs the question "if I was Leeward how close to Middle can I tack without hailing for room?"
I suspect he will say he had completed his tack and left Middle enough room to tack to avoid, Middle but in practice Middle could not without without hailing Windward (me) to tack first. What would Middle's best course of action be? I would probably have hit Leeward and called protest on rule 15 but would that have been the right thing to do?
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jan 20 at 5:23pm | |
The definition of room includes all obligations under Part 2 rules. So if middle needs time to hail windward that's part of the room she's entitled to. Middle's best course of action is whatever she thinks will cause the least damage and protest. In general of course one prefers to hit the guilty party...
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jan 20 at 5:48pm | |
'tis what I thought.
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RS400atC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jan 20 at 9:40pm | |
Sails filling on the new tack does no currently figure in the rules. If the first boat to tack gets onto starboard close hauled course, others have to keep clear, end of. Sounds to me like the Blaze should have tacked as soon as the leeward boatd started to tack, it was only going to end one way? The middle boat is just middle lane flotsam, the onus is on the windward boat to 'keep clear' of the leeward boat. And with its 1027 PY, the Blaze is clearly in 'in the wrong' if it's bickering with Lasers. Once they drag you into their PY 1099 conflict zone, you've lost.
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jan 20 at 9:52pm | |
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jan 20 at 10:54pm | |
I disagree, but only in the sense that M hailing and tacking almost simultaneously did not give W the chance to keep clear, W was under no obligation to anticipate L tacking. WRT speed differences, in F2-3 sub-planing the Blaze is barely faster than a Laser but I agree that with hindsight I should have stayed out of their way. As I said above I was engaged in a close race with two other Blazes myself and should not be expected to compromise my tactics. But with nearly 70 boats on a small lake you are bound to come into conflict with others.
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