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JimC
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Topic: Why does the Laser exist? Posted: 18 Dec 19 at 8:35am |
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Indeed you can and will. But if you go and watch, say, a Laser Masters event in breeze you will see plenty of sailors who are no longer capable of that sort of effort somehow contrive to get round the course. Arguably the question that one should ask is what the difference in performance is between sailing at 100% of an Olympic sailor's physical capabilities and say 75%, 50% or whatever is within a given sailors own capabilities. In serious breeze just about any unballasted sailboat will make demands beyond any sailor's physical capability. We all have to back off a bit in extreme conditions. The ultimate question, I suppose, would be whether you are still having fun backed off like that, or has it become an unremitting struggle for no reward. And only the individual can answer that for themself. Edited by JimC - 18 Dec 19 at 8:38am |
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Mark Aged 42
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 19 at 9:10am | |
At the Essex Yacht Club we are all on Radial rigs, regardless of our size. We have the mighty Andrea, who is all of 5 foot 2 and, ahem, 60kg maybe. She is no youngster either, and she is always a potential winner in any wind. Its not the size of the dog in the fight.
Can I say that in the context of Andrea :-) |
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zeon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 19 at 9:16am | |
Obviously all boats require different efforts to get around a course but the comment earlier that in a breeze a Laser can’t be got around a course are not correct. Getting going again after a capsize is equally part of it and the Laser does better than most in the OP list in that regard [/QUOTE I have never said it cannot be got round a course, I have only ever made the point that it takes more physical effect than a lot of similar boats because of it’s unforgiving rig . A point also made by Jeffers, another long time laser sailor. Your capsize point is a good one , it’s very easy to do a dry one and easy to get back into when you don’t Don’t get me wrong , I love the laser , I sailed one for 20 years, but I am not blind to its faults. And in the end , as a mid fleet sailor with limited talent, it’s these faults that made me leave the class.
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 19 at 9:33am | |
You'd probably have to run it past Andrea for a definitive answer........ Rather you than me though......
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The Moo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 19 at 2:06pm | |
He is undoubtedly an excellent sailor, but I suspect until joining our Club he will have had very little experience of the funeling effects and impossible to predict major headers we get on our little tree lined water, which when blowing seriously hard will wipe out most if not all boats that are being hiked properly. I am not surprised if he looked broken. Did any other boat finish that race? |
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zeon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 19 at 2:36pm | |
Yes , other people did finish .And one of his capsizes was definitely due to the above effect. His other capsize was a more typical, down wind boom in the air job Edited by zeon - 18 Dec 19 at 2:47pm |
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tink
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 19 at 3:52pm | |
Quality of of the film not up to modern standards but still awesome
Obviously he is messing about but on a whole that boat is almost always close to flat and yes athleticism but nothing super human. Tom is in control of the heel and constantly adjusting the main. Like the answer to most people’s sailing issues, time on the water makes you a better sailor. .... and in context, this is design is 1/2 a century old |
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The Moo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 19 at 4:14pm | |
Mr Slingsby does not seem to have any real issues with the mainsheet catching on the gybes.
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zeon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 19 at 5:00pm | |
Great footage. But it’s a bit posting footage of Mr Bolt and saying if I train like him I too can run the 100 metres in 10 seconds
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Dec 19 at 6:24pm | |
Maybe you could though
Dinghy racing is about far more than simple fitness, even the super fit Mr Bolt probably couldn't get a Laser downwind in F6 without the odd capsize.
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