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JimC
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Topic: Arresting the Decline and Fall of our Sport. Posted: 21 Nov 19 at 6:13pm |
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Quite a few of them: the only sports that get away without that sort of responsibility are those that run in hired by the hour accommodation, and even then village halls and the like are typically run by amateurs just like the clubs that meet in them. If the responsibilities of a sailing club intimidate you, consider those of a firearms club! |
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 19 at 6:36pm | |
True, a mate is involved in shooting and archery, both a potential H&S nightmare.....
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 19 at 6:41pm | |
My son been Archer for years, no comparison to running a sailing club.
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Robert
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tink
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 19 at 6:56pm | |
Don’t agree to limiting classes, didn’t join a club because they won’t let me sail my IC, big lake with skiffs and cats. At my old club of the recent L2 at least 3 all bought boats that where not sailed at the club. It is diversity of boats on offer at different price points that is the strength of the sport.
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Tink
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DiscoBall
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 19 at 7:10pm | |
I think mentoring is something different to short, standalone official courses - long term slow drip of teaching, encouragement and binding someone in socially (which then makes them more motivated to vounteer within the club). Maybe the poor uptake of further courses is because new starters need someone to guide them to a suitable next step? The [growing] local canoe club takes on multiple groups of beginners, gives them a basic training included in their membership fee, gives them use of club boats for a year or so. They are then on various pathways within the sport with guidance and training over multiple years. Yes they still lose probably 50% of them after year one, but those that do stay go on to volunteer and coach people themselves. There are no 'duties'...
There's a lot in this - many in this forum are just as guilty of being 'bucket-listers' changing classes and chasing the next big thing for the 'perfect' boat: Vareo, RS100, Aero, Zero, H2... Alto (I jest...) |
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 19 at 7:55pm | |
Not many clubs in the country could tell there handicap fleet they had to get rid of non compliant boats.
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Robert
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ian.r.mcdonald
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 19 at 8:27pm | |
No club should do that, but someone seeing an engaged group sailing the same boat and enjoying their racing even within the handicap fleet may well decide to join in. |
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 19 at 9:33pm | |
We run pure handicap racing, but split out results for Lasers on a Wednesday evening and some Sundays. We are discussing whether we can encourage other gatherings of classes by offering the same, especially if we have club boats to use.
On a Wednesday, the Lasers are far more interested in their race than the main one. And yet, I still can't find it in myself to buy (or even hire) a Laser. |
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CT249
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 19 at 11:22pm | |
The point about mentoring is very important, IMHO. And it doesn't have to be official - I've moved around a bit over the last few years and the clubs that are doing well have an unofficial and general mentoring mentality. The club that was doing badly had lots of professional courses, no mentors in any way (even when I repeatedly asked for the role) and is losing numbers significantly.
My little current club had pretty much doubled its numbers recently (although a record breaking drought is causing us trouble at the moment) and the newbies mentioned how friendly everyone is. It's really not hard to wander over and give a hand, and to ensure that the new sailors are not left miles behind by running some short personal handicap pursuit races etc. Even just walking over and making sure that they become involved in the post race chat is significant, but bizarrely in many clubs new sailors are left alone and people wonder why they vanish. My other sport is cycling, and around there such clubs need volunteers for traffic control (which means gaining a certification), running races, first aid, grading, etc. The only reason it may seem easier to organise is because the clubs are bigger, as far as I can see.
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tink
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Nov 19 at 7:02am | |
Not quite mentoring but in the sub set of support, social media (WhatsApp groups) are a great tool, same, class of boat, newly qualified etc. Simple note ‘forecast good, I’m heading up who’s joining me.’ Can help get people motivated.
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Tink
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