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Post Options Post Options   Quote ian.r.mcdonald Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 19 at 4:11pm
Originally posted by H2

I suspect that clubs dictating what people sailed went out of fashion when the iron curtain came down and we moved away from calling each other "Comrade". Sometimes it does surprise me that sailing ever survived the boomers.


Dictating is not the way, suggesting is the way forward ( comrades). Rather than just promoting a club to get members with any boat, promoting a selection of classes and gently push those that fill a niche. Now of course every club needs a single hander for perhaps those moving on from double handers ,something that is easier to recover and with some class? I dont see that suggesting to new members and actively marketing some classes is anything but positive. And if someone wishes to join with the first boat in the club of a class fine, but once in perhaps they will be attracted by some of the small fleet groups talking after racing?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 19 at 4:46pm
Originally posted by ian.r.mcdonald

Originally posted by JimC

Perhaps a touch exaggerated. Even clubs with strict fleet only policies would drop and adopt classes from time to time. What's ironic is that there were many more new classes introduced back then than there are now.


A regular review is sensible. It's the acceptance of all boats with no consideration that stops the creation of support groups within clubs and the motivation to get out and race. I would suggest that clubs promoting "suggested boats" whilst allowing most others is a reasonable compromise.

Agreed if we don't give new boats the opportunity to gain a foothold in a handicap fleet they will never reach critical mass.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote eric_c Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 19 at 7:19pm
Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Originally posted by ian.r.mcdonald

Originally posted by JimC

Perhaps a touch exaggerated. Even clubs with strict fleet only policies would drop and adopt classes from time to time. What's ironic is that there were many more new classes introduced back then than there are now.


A regular review is sensible. It's the acceptance of all boats with no consideration that stops the creation of support groups within clubs and the motivation to get out and race. I would suggest that clubs promoting "suggested boats" whilst allowing most others is a reasonable compromise.

Agreed if we don't give new boats the opportunity to gain a foothold in a handicap fleet they will never reach critical mass.

Historically, and even recently, not all classes have started out in handicap fleets.
It's not unknown for a group of people in a club to get together and decide to all buy the same boat.
Or it's kicked off by a club buying a group of boats for training or charter.
There are still a lot of OD fleets around, and recent new ones.
But many people wanting OD racing seem to find it from keelboats.

Personally, I like to do a variety of racing. Sail an old laser when nothing else is on offer, crew something high performance the next week, race yachts on some Sundays.
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