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deadrock
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Topic: Laser Club Edition. Posted: 08 Nov 19 at 5:03pm |
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It is not just UKLA/ILCA events where you have to be class-legal; it's any race run under WS Rules, which means any race at your local club, provided that it organises races under the WS Rules. A Race Committee cannot amend the class rules without the CA's permission, or pretend they don't apply. Anyone turning up to race with a Club Laser runs the risk of being protested by other competitors.
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tink
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 19 at 5:30pm | |
So much traffic on here this afternoon I think the main item on the news will be slump in UK productivity. Interesting that you could buy a LPE, sail it club racing on a Sunday and then not be allowed to sail it at an open event at your own club. It seams preposterous that it has come to this, fair play on ILCA ensuring boats are in specification but surely answer is that LPE come back in the fold. All new boats get an introductorydiscount, and perhaps LPE has stock, but I suspect if the club laser gets traction it will only be 1K cheaper than a legitimate boat in a year. The AD duck add is also light on details, spec of ropes, kicker etc.
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eric_c
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 19 at 5:40pm | |
That's not really true. So long as you enter a PY race honestly, it's up to the RC to allocate you a PY. If the NOR only invites Lasers (or other dinghies of recognised classes or whatever) to race that might be different. The class rules of a handicap race are the rules of the handicap scheme. Locally, we can run a race for 'Lasers' and allow ILCA dinghies to race against Lasers with replica sails. We do that, because we actually value having people come out and race. Plenty of yachts racing outside their OD class rules under IRC, it's the same rulebook. Plenty of boats racing that don't have functioning class associations or class rules. The final irony would be if clubs started sending in PY returns for 'club lasers' separately and they got a slower PY. Obviously ILCA-endorsed races are for ILCA-endorsed boats sailed by ILCA members.
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deadrock
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 19 at 5:48pm | |
Sorry, I was talking about class racing. Is there any other kind?
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eric_c
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 19 at 5:56pm | |
Possibly LP-Midlands or whatever they are has decided not to bother with ILCA and just knock out club/training boats. That would be a commercial decision not to be taken lightly, but take away the costs of supporting world level racing and all that, the break-even factory gate price of a non-compliant Laser could be much less than £4k. The rig is £150 worth of poles, the sail is £200 from Rooster, the foils are low tech heavy mouldings, the fittings and rope a couple of hundred tops. The hull is 60s-tech GRP. No development to amortise, not much marketing needed, resorts, training centres and club sailors will buy them. Maybe the Aero has made the official ILCA Laser game not worth the candle any more? And the boat's not that awful Trabant Blue colour.
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 19 at 6:04pm | |
Where's the 'facepalm' emoji
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deadrock
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 19 at 6:08pm | |
What's an emoji ?
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 19 at 6:08pm | |
Actually a club can have class racing for Lasers and include both LPE Club Lasers (which are, actually 'Lasers') and ILCA Dinghies (which aren't)...... It just specifies that the Class is for both types of boat.
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turnturtle
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 19 at 10:21am | |
if so I stand corrected - I thought they were coming out of Banbury, thanks for the clarification.
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