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Poll Question: Does your Club Vary the Yardstick and submit returns
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    Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 12:22pm
Whilst we're at it, this is possibly a better subject to chat about the PY system within.
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HISC adjust locally via the Racing committee. 

They have put quite a lot of thought into it and the numbers can change if a fleet dominate the results. The method of coming to the 'HISC figures' can be found on the following link.

These numbers are still not perfect and every dog will have its day. The Solo are generally very good on a light/medium day.
If it is windy and there are a lot of spinnaker legs the RS200 and 29ers are pretty good. 

In other days/courses other boats are better but generally every dog can have it's day. 
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For us its a committee decision and we also submit returns to the RYA!
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Thanks for that Fatboi that's an excellent link and document.
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I think Hayling strongly believe that in tidal conditions the adverse tide effects slower boats to a greater extent so penalise the faster boats.
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Well the faster boats passing thru the tide get a better lee bow effect so it all makes sense to me :-)
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Cannot vote in this one. At our club handicaps are changed by the main committee but the only time they have been is to allow our one n12 to  use the age handicap that is recommended by the class . There are two reasons why we donít do it more, 1) they work really well as they are and 2) because we are a small club any class py changes are really personal py changes. 
On the point of returns, we sail mostly pursuit sailing so not much point  Smile
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We all Merlin and 12 age yardsticks, but otherwise stick with them if they exist.
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We tend to use the RYA handicaps but allow the N12 and Merlin age related bonuses.

There have been adjustments in the past though when a class is obviously wrong for our water.
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Why have age related bonuses for Merlins and 12s but not other classes?  I appreciate the designs have evolved over the years, but letís be honest no 30 year old boat is truly competitive whether it be a Merlin, a Laser or a 420.
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