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iGRF
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Topic: More General Yardstick discussion Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 12:22pm |
Whilst we're at it, this is possibly a better subject to chat about the PY system within.
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Fatboi
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 1:16pm |
HISC adjust locally via the Racing committee.
They have put quite a lot of thought into it and the numbers can change if a fleet dominate the results. The method of coming to the 'HISC figures' can be found on the following link. These numbers are still not perfect and every dog will have its day. The Solo are generally very good on a light/medium day. If it is windy and there are a lot of spinnaker legs the RS200 and 29ers are pretty good. In other days/courses other boats are better but generally every dog can have it's day.
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H2
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 1:40pm |
For us its a committee decision and we also submit returns to the RYA!
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 1:46pm |
Thanks for that Fatboi that's an excellent link and document.
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Gordon 1430
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 3:02pm |
I think Hayling strongly believe that in tidal conditions the adverse tide effects slower boats to a greater extent so penalise the faster boats.
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Gordon
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H2
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 3:29pm |
Well the faster boats passing thru the tide get a better lee bow effect so it all makes sense to me :-)
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zeon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 4:39pm |
Cannot vote in this one. At our club handicaps are changed by the main committee but the only time they have been is to allow our one n12 to use the age handicap that is recommended by the class . There are two reasons why we don’t do it more, 1) they work really well as they are and 2) because we are a small club any class py changes are really personal py changes.
On the point of returns, we sail mostly pursuit sailing so not much point
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 4:49pm |
We all Merlin and 12 age yardsticks, but otherwise stick with them if they exist.
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jeffers
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Oct 19 at 8:13am |
We tend to use the RYA handicaps but allow the N12 and Merlin age related bonuses.
There have been adjustments in the past though when a class is obviously wrong for our water.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Oct 19 at 9:41am |
Why have age related bonuses for Merlins and 12s but not other classes? I appreciate the designs have evolved over the years, but let’s be honest no 30 year old boat is truly competitive whether it be a Merlin, a Laser or a 420.
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