More General Yardstick discussion

   Whilst we're at it, this is possibly a better subject to chat about the PY system within.

Poll Question: Does your Club Vary the Yardstick and submit returns
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Yes One person is responsible	2	[9.52%]
Yes Its a General Committee decision	0	[0.00%]
Yes It's a specific 'Race Committee' decision	3	[14.29%]
No, we stick to RYA Guidelines but submit returns	13	[61.90%]
No we stick to RYA Guidelines but do not submit returns	3	[14.29%]
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iGRF Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6496	Post Options Post Reply Quote iGRF Report Post Quote Reply Topic: More General Yardstick discussion Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 12:22pm
	Whilst we're at it, this is possibly a better subject to chat about the PY system within.
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Fatboi Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 09 Aug 16 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 189	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fatboi Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 1:16pm
	HISC adjust locally via the Racing committee. They have put quite a lot of thought into it and the numbers can change if a fleet dominate the results. The method of coming to the 'HISC figures' can be found on the following link. https://www.hisc.co.uk/media/1098/hisc_handicap_description.pdf These numbers are still not perfect and every dog will have its day. The Solo are generally very good on a light/medium day. If it is windy and there are a lot of spinnaker legs the RS200 and 29ers are pretty good. In other days/courses other boats are better but generally every dog can have it's day.

H2 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jul 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 749	Post Options Post Reply Quote H2 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 1:40pm
	For us its a committee decision and we also submit returns to the RYA!
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iGRF Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6496	Post Options Post Reply Quote iGRF Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 1:46pm
	Thanks for that Fatboi that's an excellent link and document.
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Gordon 1430 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 27 Jun 17 Location: Lee on Solent Online Status: Offline Posts: 310	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gordon 1430 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 3:02pm
	I think Hayling strongly believe that in tidal conditions the adverse tide effects slower boats to a greater extent so penalise the faster boats.
	Gordon Phantom 1430

H2 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jul 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 749	Post Options Post Reply Quote H2 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 3:29pm
	Well the faster boats passing thru the tide get a better lee bow effect so it all makes sense to me :-)
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zeon Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 20 Aug 16 Online Status: Offline Posts: 316	Post Options Post Reply Quote zeon Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 4:39pm
	Cannot vote in this one. At our club handicaps are changed by the main committee but the only time they have been is to allow our one n12 to use the age handicap that is recommended by the class . There are two reasons why we don’t do it more, 1) they work really well as they are and 2) because we are a small club any class py changes are really personal py changes. On the point of returns, we sail mostly pursuit sailing so not much point

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 19 at 4:49pm
	We all Merlin and 12 age yardsticks, but otherwise stick with them if they exist.
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jeffers Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048	Post Options Post Reply Quote jeffers Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Oct 19 at 8:13am
	We tend to use the RYA handicaps but allow the N12 and Merlin age related bonuses. There have been adjustments in the past though when a class is obviously wrong for our water.
	Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74

Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Posted: 25 Oct 19 at 9:41am
	Why have age related bonuses for Merlins and 12s but not other classes? I appreciate the designs have evolved over the years, but let’s be honest no 30 year old boat is truly competitive whether it be a Merlin, a Laser or a 420.