So, just how important is a Boats PY yardstick?

Probably someone on CVRDA owns one of these.

What number does Fuller system generate?

Edited by 423zero - 06 Nov 19 at 9:24am

Originally posted by CT249 Originally posted by tink That Gillingham Punt sounds like a right bandit  Any pictures anywhere  Here y'go. The reports make it pretty clear that it planed. In many respects, both design-wise and in terms of its place in society, I'd reckon that this boat in particular was THE boat that was further ahead of its time than any dinghy in history. Extremely successful, self draining, flat run, home built, hard chine, high aspect CB, even experimental tufts on the sails - and sailed by the absolutely kick-ass grrrl, Maud Wyllie. https://sailcraftblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/08/1-12-in-every-respect-a-sport-suited-to-our-sex-the-women-who-changed-small-boat-sailing/ C'mon Tink, build one. Imagine the yardstick they'd give an 1890s design.....at least until they saw it sail.

Doesn't it depend on what we call "accurate"???  The Peaky number works quite well. A naval architect and designer of successful Cherubs down here has also worked out a similar formula but if I recall correctly, but it includes calcs for spinnakers, traps, etc.

Edited by CT249 - 06 Nov 19 at 9:59pm

Yes, I read that too, very good.

Originally posted by tink This fixation with fixing the Laser would serve no real purpose

Other than stabilising the world of those of us that buy boats with a performance level similar to the Laser but nicer to sail who then compete week in week out with pals in their laser, only to find after a couple of years that is no longer possible because of forces beyond our immediate control.

It is also illogical to those who don't even try and understand what the handicap system is, how it works, why it works the way it does and or why it is the only system at our disposal, most of whom cannot understand why a boat that has been around for years and is physically faster over the water now than at any time in its past, is being rated as slower and slower each year for the past five years. This is precisely one of the reasons folk get so mad and confused at the illogical nature of the system.

So no, I fundamentally disagree and believe that until one boat is fixed the anomalies will go on getting worse and worse as the system thrashes around it's statistics with nothing fixed in any sense of actual reality.