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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Oct 19 at 10:02pm
The Moth's ruled that foiled mast be on the centreline immediately after the first 'three point' foiling moth was developed effectively outlawing foils mounted on the wings..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Oct 19 at 5:30am
Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

The Moth's ruled that foiled mast be on the centreline immediately after the first 'three point' foiling moth was developed effectively outlawing foils mounted on the wings..
Thanks, Iíd presumed that, interesting. Wonder where they would have ended up if they hadnít done that everyone else followed their lead.

Clearly a T foil is better for out and out performance but not necessarily for a peopleís foiler. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote DiscoBall Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Oct 19 at 6:41pm
Originally posted by tink

Not fully upwind but I think in illustrates my point†


Looks more like broad reaching looking at the water and sail trim. Syz & Co (think that's the boat) got lots of photos in the sailing press for a very short time and then vanished, which probably speaks volumes.

I think the three point foiling is a nice idea if you're just looking at going in a straight lines. Suspect with the moths that even if the 'piv' foils hadn't been outlawed that ultimately they'd have moved to centreline foils as a better solution for all points of sail.
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Moths were on the edge of banning the foilers at the three pointer (tricycle) stage.


Too easy and throwing away hard earned boat handling skills.


It was uncertain if bifoilers would be sailable. Legend has it that the time the Australian committee was having a meeting Ian Ward had put together  a bifoiler to sail outside the club where the meet was happening ...

... and the rest as they say is (almost) history.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote DiscoBall Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Oct 19 at 10:54am
Originally posted by Boatmik

Moths were on the edge of banning the foilers at the three pointer (tricycle) stage.


Too easy and throwing away hard earned boat handling skills.


It was uncertain if bifoilers would be sailable. Legend has it that the time the Australian committee was having a meeting Ian Ward had put together  a bifoiler to sail outside the club where the meet was happening ...

... and the rest as they say is (almost) history.



Funnily enough I was reading the Foilers v fakes article on your site the other day (and perusing all the interesting boat designs).

Tink - one along your three point foiler lines here http://foilingdinghy.com/ - looks pretty awkward with the bow up trim and not sure 13000 euros is 'people's foiler' territory...


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