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ian.r.mcdonald
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Topic: Dare I even discuss a new class? Posted: 27 Sep 19 at 1:19pm |
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And to keep your drive to develop and design happy, go crazy on the fit out and setup |
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 19 at 1:49pm | |||
There would have to be an adaptor between Laser 2 mast foot and Laser 1 mast pot. Laser with a sail you can drop. I would go with option of a 3 sail set up, Laser 2 already as fittings for them. Not something I would do myself, I prefer classic boats.
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Do Different
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 19 at 1:53pm | |||
I know nothing of them but for us small and grey oldies I thought the Blaze Fire an interesting idea.
edit add. Still loving my Contender inland @ 5' 3" and now down to 70kgs, really quite a gentleman's tool up to a decent breeze now I'm settled to a technique that suits, not too sure I'd be heavy enough to recover it from capsize in a sea though if I got caught out and it came up rough. Edited by Do Different - 27 Sep 19 at 2:00pm |
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 19 at 2:23pm | |||
Yes, and there are a couple of Blazes now that come out occasionally and one with a Fire rig. So it is feasible a Contender then? They've got mahoosive sails 11 sq mtr isn't it? I went over to the nationals to have a look didn't come across too many guys my build, although there was one ex windsurfer of my acquaintance. Friendly bunch though. And you must get punished by the Laserati on light wind days, without the ability to run by the lee (which I see as it's biggest light wind liability) nor can you change the angle of the rig on the fly, so no pulling it more upright down wind which might help. On another point, Rupert if you're reading this, what are your issues with having two aft hulls? I was thinking wetted area reduction, no flushing strips to worry about, the stability to totally raise the plate offwind, other than it's weird what could possibly go wrong? Edited by iGRF - 27 Sep 19 at 2:23pm |
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 19 at 2:32pm | |||
Think of your Minisprint with no turrets and centre of hull removed aft of centre board, larger side tanks obviously, gantry linking tanks for rudder.
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Robert
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 19 at 2:40pm | |||
It looks like a single handed Fireball, difficult to tell from that picture I shall have a research tonight Have a think about the Twin hull idea Rupert, reduced wetted area , no flushing strips, kick the plate all the way up offwind. They could even taper off so the boat would be like a swallowtail board but with higher volume in the tails |
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Do Different
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 19 at 3:34pm | |||
I probably shouldn't have commented iGRF, as I suspect we have different agendas.
I don't give two hoots about how it compares to Lasers in v. light; it is what it is, a great big long, elegant and powerful piece of a sailing classic. Also, really relaxing to lay about in while waiting for breeze to fill. At our sizes I'm wiring and hanging out comfortably with next to no effort in any sort of breeze while others are hiking and beginning to lean out! When it pipes up a bit more, pulling on cunningham and sailing free n easy for max VMG while others are really hurting. If I get caught out 2 miles at the far side of the res. in a real squall all that length makes it a very predictable platform to deep reach home standing on the rear quarter. Always liked them and now doing it late in life as a greying midget. Of course I do absolutely nothing on PY, why would that bother me set against all the plus points?
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 19 at 5:41pm | |||
Given that the PY's are arrived at from a mix of venues I'd be surprised if any trap boat can be competitive on any but the very biggest lakes and only the flat-land ones at that (I suspect your's is one of those DD if the far side is 2 miles away). Places like Bala and Ullswater are usually gusty enough to make trapezing anything but a pleasure unless the wind is down the length. The fittest, most agile sailors will still do alright but for us ordinary guys a hiking boat with a relatively modest rig is always going to be easier to sail to it's numbers. On open water OTOH where the extra power is more usable then traps and big rigs are the way to go.
Why don't you build your sub 50kg carbon Contender, give it a modern rig and a different name and see how you go Graeme?
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
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ian.r.mcdonald
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 19 at 6:08pm | |||
When I had my Contender, I thought the hotshot who advised me on rake "back until you cant get under the boom, then up one hole" was joking.
He wasnt. A lovely boat |
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 19 at 6:25pm | |||
The Fire sail is fantastic (I have one) but the Blaze standard sail is so controllable that I have used the Fire twice.
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
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