Solo changes survey

   Solos are asking members to complete a survey on the interest in making some fairly serious changes. Changes to the centreboard capping, transom and rudder fitting, carbon mast, carbon boom etc etc.

Edited by ian.r.mcdonald - 05 Sep 19 at 7:26pm

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ian.r.mcdonald Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 24 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 440	Post Options Post Reply Quote ian.r.mcdonald Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Solo changes survey Posted: 05 Sep 19 at 7:20pm
	Solos are asking members to complete a survey on the interest in making some fairly serious changes. Changes to the centreboard capping, transom and rudder fitting, carbon mast, carbon boom etc etc. Edited by ian.r.mcdonald - 05 Sep 19 at 7:26pm

423zero Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3297	Post Options Post Reply Quote 423zero Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 05 Sep 19 at 7:30pm
	Go with every item people have highlighted over the years, but call it a mk2 or Solo2.
	Robert

ColPrice2002 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 25 Nov 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 213	Post Options Post Reply Quote ColPrice2002 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 05 Sep 19 at 7:59pm
	Some of the proposals will affect the boat design, but probably not going to make a difference to the boat speed (eg transom cut out, centreboard capping). Others may - eg carbon boom, removal of 3kg lead. I suspect that the carbon mast will affect boat speed - though the proposal is for a two piece mast... I've chosen the ones that I think make no difference to the performance. No dinghy design can stand still - even the Solo. After all, wooden masts, booms, and stern sheeting have all gone Colin

ian.r.mcdonald Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 24 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 440	Post Options Post Reply Quote ian.r.mcdonald Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 05 Sep 19 at 8:10pm
	Whilst the centreboard capping will not change things for most of us ( more kneeling?) the top guys will be able to sail faster with more rake. The transom change will be an introduction to fixed rudder (+£500?)

Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Posted: 05 Sep 19 at 10:09pm
	What is the point of the transom change - to make it easier to climb back after a capsize? As for the carbon spars and lower hull weight, I’d get an Aero/Zero/OK if I wanted that. Or maybe a Laser as of next year. Would the carbon boom mean a new, lose footed, sail? Outhauls on carbon booms never work as well in my experience (too much friction in clew straps) and a carbon mast would be higher maintenance if left up, more aggro to rig if taken down and probably reduce optimal crew weight.

ian.r.mcdonald Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 24 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 440	Post Options Post Reply Quote ian.r.mcdonald Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 19 at 7:16am
	I think the point about loose footed is a good one. Not on the list at present but I would agree that pressure will be put on within a couple of years to make further changes. Replacement of sails is a normal thing, but making the backup sail for windy days redundant will add to the cost. Spending £1500 with sail seems a lot for not much more than a cosmetic change and a weight reduction? Is this all intended to make the Solo more modern and compete with Aero etc?. Looking at the numbers attending nationals and inland would suggest it's doing fine now! Edited by ian.r.mcdonald - 06 Sep 19 at 7:20am

zeon Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 20 Aug 16 Online Status: Offline Posts: 316	Post Options Post Reply Quote zeon Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 19 at 10:08am
	I am with Colprice on this one . No dinghy class can stand still, even the Streakers have voted for tracked centre main and carbon booms recently. Small changes would make the boat look more modern. Get rid of the coffee table on the centre board case for one and carbon boom would be a good start. I would even be in favour of a small weight reduction so you could remove the correctors that all frp boats have. On the other hand I would be against carbon masts for a number of reasons.

ian.r.mcdonald Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 24 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 440	Post Options Post Reply Quote ian.r.mcdonald Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 19 at 10:26am
	A recent " current rules" boat is going to drop £1000 in value if the new rules come in. The differences in speed will be small, especially inland. Perhaps I should see this as an advantage and opportunity to buy a very competent club racing boat. I suspect the owner that picked up their new boat last month may have a different view. But perhaps that is just modern dinghy ownership.

Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 19 at 10:38am
	If the weight is reduced they will just reduce the laminate schedule and still carry lead, as it would be marginally faster (and less robust). Folk don’t buy the Solo because it is the fastest or sexiest, they buy it because it is practical. Changes to make it more practical I might support, others I don’t. What are the reasons for the proposed changes?

Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3362	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 19 at 11:53am
	If I was (and in the future I may become) a Solo sailor I would probably support the proposals WRT the CB capping and transom/rudder fittings but not the carbon mast/boom or weight reduction, lets face it the Solo is not super light but nor is it a porker at 70kg and losing 3kg will make no noticeable difference to it's performance
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