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ian.r.mcdonald
Far too distracted from work Joined: 24 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 440 |
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Topic: Solo changes survey Posted: 20 Sep 19 at 9:11am |
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I agree totally Nick, but until the rules change to ignore winning by less than two boat lengths, making sure the basic boats are evenly matched is important. And then when I go the wrong way up the beat or run poorly, it's my fault! |
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stonefish
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 19 at 10:58am | |
These proposed changes are going to be very bad for the class, hardly anyone is going to win with this.
You will piss off the builders because no one is going to buy a new solo anytime soon knowing a new version is coming in a year or so and then more potential changes after that. You will piss off the owners that have just purchased new boats because all of a sudden their resale value has dramatically dropped because it's not a new design boat. You will piss off the owners of perfectly competitive older boats that have no correctors or have removed some to keep it on weight because new boats will come in at 3kg less. You will piss off any solo owner that isn't planning on shelling out 10k out for a new design boat anytime soon because all of a sudden new boats will appear that are lighter, easier to recover from a capsize, more comfortable to sail etc. because when they purchased their boat they thought they were getting a one design boat. All for what making the boat slightly better. There is a reason the solo is the second most popular class in the country, it's design is a winning formula and people that own them accept it has its flaws in the knowledge they are all in the same boat.
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Riv
Far too distracted from work Joined: 23 Nov 13 Location: South Devon Online Status: Offline Posts: 353 |
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"Problem with the Solo Class Association is that there is no provision
for postal voting and AGMs are held at the Nationals, which is not a
representative sample of the majority of the membership" (David yacht) Am I correct in thinking that the questionnaire was sent out to gauge opinion and the actual decision is going to be taken at the AGM? I assume that more questionnaires were sent out than there will be attendances at the AGM? This means that many members who have expressed an opinion will not be able to vote? Is this correct? If this is correct I find it almost unbelievable. I'm a member of two Unions. I use postal votes. That is Democratic. Seems like the Solo class needs a democratic overhaul or they will be like my Council whose Officers actually take all the decisions with Councilors comming along for the ride and "democracy" becomming a farce. (I have attended two Council meetings this week to do with major planning issues)
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Mistral Div II prototype board, Original Windsurfer, Hornet built'74.
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NicolaJayne
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 19 at 11:57am | |
exactly that ...
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stonefish
Newbie Joined: 22 Aug 18 Location: United Kingdo Online Status: Offline Posts: 10 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 19 at 12:10pm | |
Except there are plenty of competitive boats that have no lead or reduced lead
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Sam.Spoons
Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3398 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 19 at 1:06pm | |
The 'cheaper new boat' thing is a red herring, 3kg of lead costs under £25 retail (scrap value only about £8), not significant on a boat costing £7500 without any of the essential "extras".
Now if they were considering shaving 20kg off that would really make a difference
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H2
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 19 at 2:16pm | |
Because then it would be made of carbon and be much more expensive.....right?
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CT249
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 19 at 2:24pm | |
Well said. |
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CT249
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 19 at 2:29pm | |
Arguably most of the sport has still failed to get its head around the enormous lifespan of the boats that have been built over the past couple of decades. In many ways they are seen as a problem rather than an asset to the sport. Keeping old boats competitive must be the easiest way to reduce costs, which is one of the sport's greatest problems. |
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Sep 19 at 2:55pm | |
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